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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-01-2005 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
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New York and 10 Other States Get Tough on Emissions
Though it shouldn’t have any direct effect on collector cars, a new round of stricter auto emissions requirements, expected to sweep the Northeast, could raise the price of your next new daily driver or tow vehicle.
The New York Times reported last week that New York is adopting California’s new stricter automotive emissions regulations which will also require the fuel mileage of many vehicles to be increased by roughly 40 percent.
While environmentalists are applauding the proposed changes that New York, Maine, New Jersey, Vermont, Massachusetts, Oregon, Washington, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Pennsylvania are all expected to adopt, automakers contend that it could lead to a $3,000 increase in the price of new vehicles and the extinction of some light trucks and SUVs in those states altogether.
For the full story go to: www.nytimes.com/2005/11/26/nyregion/26emissions.html. (Free registration required)
- By Mike McNessor

68 Coop
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posted 12-03-2005 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop        Reply w/Quote
I'm confused here, do they have a smog check for Semi's??? Not to point fingers, but I've seen some trucks leave black smoke thru every gear, and then some. My car smokes 0. Don't it make some sense to start with the big boys first, then follow on down the line??? I don't know.

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Jimmy Ray
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posted 12-15-2005 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimmy Ray        Reply w/Quote
AMEN William.....

Dave Witthoeft
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posted 12-17-2005 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Witthoeft        Reply w/Quote
Both my 71's passed..

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Mike65
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posted 12-21-2005 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike65        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 68 Coop:
I'm confused here, do they have a smog check for Semi's??? Not to point fingers, but I've seen some trucks leave black smoke thru every gear, and then some. My car smokes 0. Don't it make some sense to start with the big boys first, then follow on down the line??? I don't know.



William you hit the nail right on the head there.

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Jake11
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posted 12-21-2005 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jake11        Reply w/Quote

This is good idea, and more people should
get involved. I live in Cali.1 of the most
ridiculous states concerning "pollution".
A while back they tried to ban leaf blowers,
get cat converters put on all small gas
motors, like motorcycles, lawn mowers, ect.
Our representitives are mostly loons. Arnie
tried to get the laws changed to make the
districts fair to the voters. I didn't work.
Seems the people it would have helped didn't
show up to vote. It's only gonna get worse.
People have to make their views known in no
uncertain terms.

Pollution? Go to the airport and watch
what comes out of an airliner. Watch a
railroad loco go by belching out
black smoke. Who do they pick on? Us, the
car and light truck owners. I used to do
smog testing and repair as a tech. The state
ran a car so cleverly rigged through our
shop, and all the other ones in our area.
This ended up in court. It cost everybody
involved money. The case was thrown out as
entrapment. This was in the 80's. I tore
up my smog licence, and burned it.
My "opinion" and it's shared by others, is
the emission testing program here is to hire
more worthless state employees. I asked a
supervisor that gave a "mandatory" popaganda
lecture we all had to go to, how come you
guys (the state) don't go after the diesel
trucks and locos? He says- we are not concerned about those. They only make harmless smoke, he says. I says, your kidding
me, no. He changed the subject and ran away.

JMO Keith

bbjay351
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posted 12-22-2005 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bbjay351        Reply w/Quote
We have emissions stations here in Missouri that really is no different than it used to be when they had the sniffers in the shops. Except it's more expensive and the shops don't get any of that money anymore. If it doesn't pass, you can take it back through later on. If it doesn't pass again and you try to get a waiver, you have to spend so much to have it pass. But, what I don't get is, how does that clean up the air, when those same vehicles that were poluting the air, just pay a few hundred dollars to pass. Hmmmm, more money for the state, more headache and money out of the pockets of the people. You would think that they would look at the industries that polute the air instead of taking it out on the tax payers. They put your car or truck on rollers and drive it through this simulation that they watch on a computer. What is making people mad is, if you have a manual transmission, they have to start out in I think like second or third gear, and some people are complaing about wear and tear, or problems they are having after the test with their vehicle. There have been rumors for the last year and a half that they are getting rid of these things but no real steps being taken to do this I don't think.

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