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Topic: What was the last year for full size wagon 2 door?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-26-2005 12:42 PM
 
1960?------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 1889
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-26-2005 08:38 PM
I believe that 1960 would be correct, Alex. At least I have never seen a Ford full sized wagon any later than 1960.------------------
78 Fairmont 428 4 speed [email protected] 1.32 60 foot
80 Fairmont 302 5 speed 12.8@105mph
85 Mustang NHRA M/Stock 302 5speed. [email protected] 1.63 60 foot
59 Meteor (Canadian Ford) 2 dr sedan 332, auto
74 F350 ramp truck 390 4spd
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 8777
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-26-2005 08:57 PM
im not old enough to remember!!  ------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-302-7.25 @93mph 1/8
1.54 60ft 50 % of the fun dragracing is meeting people who will give you the shirt off their back to wipe the grease off your hands.
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 8198
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 11-30-2005 02:40 PM
Don't remember on the 2 dr. deal but do remember the 57 DelRio 2 dr wagon. Kind of rare. There's one advertised in the lates Antique Classic Trader. On the 2 dr deal, would think perhaps 59. That was the last year of the full size Ranchero which would have had similar tooling as the full size 2 dr. wagon.
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 1889
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-30-2005 03:06 PM
Your theory about the 1959 seems to make sense, but I have personally seen a couple of 60 2 dr wagons around this area. It does seem that a lot of additional tooling would have been needed for such a low volume vehicle. I have owned 3 2 dr Ford wagons, a 58 Ranch Wagon, & 2 57 Sedan Delivery`s. I wish I still had them all now! The 58 & my first delivery were both crushed years ago, but my other delivery is living the "good life" in a local Ford Pro Mod racers mini museum. It shares space with among others, an original 70 Boss 429 Mustang, Hot Rod 34 Ford coupe (312 Tbird engine with 3 2barrels, chopped & channeled, still as built in the early 60`s), a 68 F100 with a twin turbo 390FE, tubbed with 14x32 tires on steel rims with stock hubcaps. This truck was bought new by the father. He also has an early Plymouth Valient, tube chassis with 392 Hemi street cruiser (wifes car!) ------------------
78 Fairmont 428 4 speed [email protected] 1.32 60 foot
80 Fairmont 302 5 speed 12.8@105mph
85 Mustang NHRA M/Stock 302 5speed. [email protected] 1.63 60 foot
59 Meteor (Canadian Ford) 2 dr sedan 332, auto
74 F350 ramp truck 390 4spd
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F570rd
Gearhead Posts: 118
From: mpls.mn.hennipin
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 11-30-2005 03:18 PM
A friend of mine bracket races a 57 2dr Merc.wagon.I thought it was very rare being a hard top but later found all were as such.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-30-2005 05:04 PM
Gary (Kulutz)would know for sure but I'm pretty sure it was 1960.
He the oldest guy around here. 
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05
First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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70SportsRoof
Gearhead Posts: 1064
From: Orange County, CA
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 11-30-2005 08:49 PM
In 1961 you could still get a Tudor Ranch Wagon, somewhat rare, only 12,042 were built.------------------
Gary M
'46 Ford 1/2 ton, '46 Mercury 1/2 ton, '47 1 ton, '57 Fairlane 500, '70 Mustang 63B SportsRoof, '95 Mustang GT coupe [This message has been edited by 70SportsRoof (edited 11-30-2005).]
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KULTULZ
Gearhead Posts: 959
From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-30-2005 11:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:Gary (Kulutz)would know for sure but I'm pretty sure it was 1960. He the oldest guy around here.
Most likely am... 70SportsRoof is correct. 1961 was the last year of the full size Ranch Wagon (Body Code 59). ------------------
I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968. Also older FORD Special Service Tools -MEL Engine Forum-
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-30-2005 11:24 PM
Thank you.
That clears it up.
I have never seen a 61 two door wagon.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05
First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 1889
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-01-2005 02:30 PM
Intersting, I have never seen a 61 2 dr wagon neither, but I`d like too! I`d like to see a 58 Edsel "Roundup" 2 dr wagon as well. Gotta love the oddballs!------------------
78 Fairmont 428 4 speed [email protected] 1.32 60 foot
80 Fairmont 302 5 speed 12.8@105mph
85 Mustang NHRA M/Stock 302 5speed. [email protected] 1.63 60 foot
59 Meteor (Canadian Ford) 2 dr sedan 332, auto
74 F350 ramp truck 390 4spd
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70SportsRoof
Gearhead Posts: 1064
From: Orange County, CA
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-01-2005 08:56 PM
Here's a '61 project, lots of pictures http://www.fakesnake.com/ranchwagon.htm------------------
Gary M
'46 Ford 1/2 ton, '46 Mercury 1/2 ton, '47 1 ton, '57 Fairlane 500, '70 Mustang 63B SportsRoof, '95 Mustang GT coupe
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-01-2005 11:08 PM
Now that's cool! 
Except for the 223 L6 that is. Thanks Gary.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05
First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 1889
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-01-2005 11:30 PM
Boy, I`ll bet that missing side glass will be REAL easy to find!------------------
78 Fairmont 428 4 speed [email protected] 1.32 60 foot
80 Fairmont 302 5 speed 12.8@105mph
85 Mustang NHRA M/Stock 302 5speed. [email protected] 1.63 60 foot
59 Meteor (Canadian Ford) 2 dr sedan 332, auto
74 F350 ramp truck 390 4spd
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KULTULZ
Gearhead Posts: 959
From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-02-2005 03:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rory McNeil:Intersting, I have never seen a 61 2 dr wagon neither, but I`d like too! I`d like to see a 58 Edsel "Roundup" 2 dr wagon as well.
1958 EDSEL ROUNDUP  Same body as 57/58 FORD RANCH WAGON 1957 MERC VOYAGER  Notice HDTP as was CHEV NOMAD/PONT SAFARI ------------------
I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968. Also older FORD Special Service Tools -MEL Engine Forum- [This message has been edited by KULTULZ (edited 12-02-2005).]
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KULTULZ
Gearhead Posts: 959
From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-02-2005 03:56 PM
This is one heck of a project car... .jpg) I would make it a HDTP with a B Pillar and sliding quarter glass instead of putting a STARLINER quarter pillar on it. Make one fine beach runner... ------------------
I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968. Also older FORD Special Service Tools -MEL Engine Forum-
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Whitson
Gearhead Posts: 290
From: Western Canada
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted 12-06-2005 01:23 PM
I had never seen or heard of that 57 Merc "Voyager". That is wild! Love to find one of those and drop a 430 in it.
I was a 2dr wagon guy in my teens....had a 57 2dr ranch, then a 58, then a 62 Falcon 2dr wagon.
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KULTULZ
Gearhead Posts: 959
From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-06-2005 04:05 PM
The MERC wagons came through as HDTPS (2 and 4 dr) from 1957 to 1960. The 2dr. is hard to find.I still cannot figure why FORD didn't base an EDSEL (58) wagon on the MERC platform. What I was thinking is reworking the 57/58 RANCH WAGON door opening to a HDTP (MERC glass)(similiar to NOMAD) with a sloping B pillar and retain the sliding quarter glass. Then hang a 58 EDSEL front clip on it. ------------------
I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968. Also older FORD Special Service Tools -MEL Engine Forum-
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Whitson
Gearhead Posts: 290
From: Western Canada
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted 12-06-2005 04:43 PM
Ever looked at this site? Lots of neat old wagon pictures in there. www.ephemeranow.com/wagons/stationwagons.htm
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