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Moneymaker
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posted 12-28-2004 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Rory McNeil
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posted 12-29-2004 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`m not Gary, but I HAVE seen 60 Edsels before, but never on the dragstrip!!!

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Moneymaker
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posted 12-29-2004 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen plenty of 60 Edsels myself.
Just never seen one in this body style.

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F570rd
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posted 12-29-2004 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for F570rd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starliner Edsel?Its still cool look'n

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KULTULZ
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posted 12-30-2004 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This was to be the 1960 EDSEL;

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I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968.

Also older FORD Special Service Tools

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posted 12-30-2004 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you suppose the deal was with that Tempest grille?

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Moneymaker
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posted 12-30-2004 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what's up with the Starliner roof line?
What was it called and how many did they make?
Did they still use any MEL engines?

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posted 12-30-2004 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7DMACH1   Click Here to Email 7DMACH1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex,here's everything you ever wanted to know. http://www.edsel.com/pages/edsel60.htm

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Moneymaker
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posted 12-30-2004 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, only 243 produced.
Pretty cool!

Thanks Ray

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Alex Denysenko
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posted 12-31-2004 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BattlestarOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Wow, only 243 produced.
Pretty cool!

Well, actually there were only 52 of these produced! It's a 63B which is the Deluxe Two Door Hardtop. The 63A is the Standard Two Door Hardtop of which there were 243.

Total two door hardtop production was 295 (243+52)

As far as what it's called, pretty simply Two Door Hardtop. All 60 Edsels say "Ranger" on the side except for the wagons.

The powertrains were basically same as Ford. 223 6 cylinder, 292 2V, and 352 4V. There was no 352 2V in the Edsel. Trans were 2 speed Ford-O, 3 speed Cruise-O, 3 speed stick and 3 speed stick Overdrive.

My first car was a 60 Starliner in 1966. I had looked for one on and off over the years. Never found the "right" one.

When I found this one at Carlisle two years ago it was mine! Of course I couldn't leave it stock!

Oh yeah, the Comet story........

If you look at the tail lights you'll see that they are the same on the Edsel and the Comet. The Comet was to be the "small" Edsel. But FoMoCo pulled the plug on the Edsel program.

The Comet was a late intro for the 1960 model year. I don't know how accurate the story is but there is a legend that the Comet name was chosen because it had five letters and there were already a bunch of panels stamped out for E-D-S-E-L.

And that's all I know about 60 Edsels.....

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7DMACH1
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posted 12-31-2004 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7DMACH1   Click Here to Email 7DMACH1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I think I still have the old Edsel Parts Books arround here. I used to sell some Edsel parts when I first started in this business. Used to service some too. Those were the days.

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posted 12-31-2004 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 7DMACH1:
Wow, I think I still have the old Edsel Parts Books arround here. I used to sell some Edsel parts when I first started in this business. Used to service some too. Those were the days.


Knowing you Ray, you probably used some Edsel parts on your Mustang.

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7DMACH1
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posted 12-31-2004 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7DMACH1   Click Here to Email 7DMACH1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 408 is a MEL.. LMAO!!!!

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I still have cans of Rotunda Coolant and Freon!!!

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posted 12-31-2004 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still have several sets of Autolite DP-6 points sets and tons of BF-601 and BF-703 plugs myself.

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Alex Denysenko
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posted 01-08-2005 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a swoopy looking beast, i like this better than the 60 Ford. There is a Mercury and a Meteor version of the Starliner too. Anybody have a shot of all 4 types?

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posted 01-08-2005 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Below is a 60 MERC;

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I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968.

Also older FORD Special Service Tools

-MEL Engine Forum-

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Moneymaker
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posted 01-09-2005 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks about 1/3 bigger than the Edsel.

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Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
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posted 01-09-2005 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BattlestarOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Looks about 1/3 bigger than the Edsel.


Key word here is "looks". You'll notice that that is a drawing/painting rather than a photograph.

I saw an article long time ago where the advertising agencies would photograph cars and then cut and splices the photos to make them look "lower, wider, longer".....

Then they would give the "doctored" pics to the artists who would produce what you see here.

This one isn't oo bad, but I've seen some, especially early 60s GM cars,like the Big Pontiacs that are just absolutely absurd!


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KULTULZ
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posted 01-10-2005 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, the 57 thru 60 MERC was a style of it's own. They were larger than the FORD offering. With the demise of the EDSEL and the MEL Division (1960), MERC was brought back into the FORD camp and shared its' basic platfrom from there.

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I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968.

Also older FORD Special Service Tools

-MEL Engine Forum-

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KULTULZ
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posted 01-10-2005 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomP:

There is a Mercury and a Meteor version of the Starliner too. Anybody have a shot of all 4 types?


...sheesh...

I just figured out what you were talikng about. CANADIAN MERCURY METEOR MONTCALM...

Was the METEOR on the same platform as the US FORD?


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KULTULZ
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posted 01-10-2005 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BattlestarOne:

Key word here is "looks". You'll notice that that is a drawing/painting rather than a photograph.

I saw an article long time ago where the advertising agencies would photograph cars and then cut and splices the photos to make them look "lower, wider, longer".....

Then they would give the "doctored" pics to the artists who would produce what you see here.


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