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Topic: History of air shocks
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 10-04-2004 11:33 AM
   
Hey Gary, or any of you other "older" farts.
Do any of you know when air shocks were introduced?
The earliest memory I have of them were Delco's in 1969 or so.------------------
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KULTULZ
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From: Rockville, MD
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posted 10-04-2004 12:43 PM
I'm thinking the sixties also. And DELCO was the hot name even though you could get kits from SEARS, MONROE etc. They were very popular instead of raising the suspension correctly. Trailer tow and pickup useage were popular also.Had to have them big tires 'ya know...I remember some using the air shock with the shock extension...had to belt yourself in to keep from sliding out of the driver's seat. Had to park on an incline with your sweetie at night so you wouldn't roll off the back seat...  AIR-LIFT kits were popular also. As far as air-ride, both FORD and GM had that in the late fifties, most likely others had it earlier. What is all the nostalgia about? Trying to skip over the COMET THING?  ------------------
I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968. Also older FORD Special Service Tools -MEL Engine Forum-
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Moneymaker
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posted 10-04-2004 03:01 PM
Sears and Monroe didn't offer air shocks until about 1970.
I had bought some about then. I know all about Air Lift corp. and air ride suspensions, I just was wondering if someone could confirm when air shocks were introduced.
Comet thing? 
You mean where you were wrong about Hipo's actually beig installed in 1964 Comets?
I don't want to see or hear about pre production print info.
I have a ton of that crap on W code 1968 Mustangs including an original owners manual that shows maintanance schedules.
Show me proof of a car or RPO order sheet. 
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Alex Denysenko
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Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com [This message has been edited by Moneymaker (edited 10-04-2004).]
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KULTULZ
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posted 10-04-2004 04:36 PM
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Show me proof of a car or RPO order sheet.
Showed you the TSB. Nuff said, extra sausage and pepperoni please...
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Moneymaker
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posted 10-04-2004 05:38 PM
TSB means nothing!  I'll send you a pizza anyway just 'cause I'm a nice guy. So Gary, in answer to my original question, you have no idea when air shocks were introduced and by whom?
Does anyone? ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-04-2004 07:16 PM
Can I have a pizza too?  ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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KULTULZ
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posted 10-04-2004 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
TSB means nothing!
Your position means nothing as all you have offered is hearsay and your opinion. quote:
I'll send you a pizza anyway just 'cause I'm a nice guy.
I'm holding you to that... quote:
So Gary, in answer to my original question, you have no idea when air shocks were introduced and by whom? Does anyone?
All I know is that they were available in other brands other than DELCO before 1970 as I put a set on my girlfriend's 65 SPRINT in 1969. I also know they were designed for useage other than what they wound up being used for...
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Moneymaker
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posted 10-04-2004 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Can I have a pizza too?
Sure. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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First SS/MA in the TENS!
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Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-04-2004 09:04 PM
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'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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JCQuinn@work
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From: Lakewood, CO, USA
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 10-04-2004 10:33 PM
I had air shocks on my 67 Mustang that I bought in 67. I probably put them on in 68 or maybe 69. They weren't a new product then but I do not remember when they came along. I don't remember the brand either. I barely remember 68 or 69.John
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Rory McNeil
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From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 10-05-2004 12:55 AM
I have no idea when air shocks came out, but I do have a couple of not so fond memories of them on my 70 Mustang, back in the mid 70`s. First, since the rear shocks on the Mustang were equipped with studs top & bottom, the shocks tended to slowly rotate, until they tore the plastic air line out of the shock. 2nd, Since my US Indy/L60-15 combination required quite a bit of air to prevent cut up sidewalls, both the upper shock mounts in the floorpan ended up cracking & splitting. I have not owned a pair of air shocks for almost 30 years now, thats fine by me!------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 10-06-2004 04:26 PM
Well the air shock deal has taught me no more than I already knew so far. BUT..............between 5 and 7 PM CST tonight watch this and the mid size forums for a 64 Comet 289 Hipo resolution.
Irrefutable FoMoCo print evidence that I am once again correct!
Beth and I are really looking forward to those fresh New England MD crabs. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Bob Hopkins
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Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 10-06-2004 04:57 PM
EARLIST I emember was 1968 "Highjackers" was what I remember,the were usualy missused A friend with a Bacraduda 383'4 gear8 bolt crank and monster slicks that stuck out wheelwells and "highjackers to keep body off slicks till one of them blew top of 2nd geer ,can you say adbrupt right turn into woods ,guess it could have been worse it could have made left into traffic,car was totaled. Earler than 1968 all I can rememberis air lifts just notter olefarts opinion
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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
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posted 10-06-2004 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Beth and I are really looking forward to those fresh New England MD crabs.
MD isn't in New England... ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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Moneymaker
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posted 10-06-2004 10:45 PM
Mass, Maine, crabs, lobsters, all same to me. See this link for the real deal. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000570.html ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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TomP
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From: Delta BC Canada
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posted 10-18-2004 02:34 PM
Hey Alex, i think there were Hi Po 64 Comets, read it in the old 80's Super Fords... no anchovies on mine
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Mike65
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posted 10-26-2004 10:43 PM
Alex, I would say the 60's or early 70's originally for cars that towed trailers to level out the ride when loaded. I also had a set in my 70 & 68 Mustangs, had to clear those BIG tire you know. LOL I think the first set of air shocks I saw where either sears or monroe.------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 10-28-2004 10:31 AM
One of my chebbie mechanic pals tells me that GM introduced the Delco Air shocks in 1964.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-29-2004 08:23 PM
Yeah, but chebbie guys always lie... ------------------
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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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