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2toneblue
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From: Salida,Colorado USA
Registered: Sep 2004

posted 09-02-2004 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2toneblue   Click Here to Email 2toneblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering I have no Master Parts Catalog to find this info out, I was wondering if the steering gear on a 58 Ford with power steering is different than the manual steering gear, I am thinking more than likely is though they look alike, I wanted to convert my car to manual steering and I had found some of the parts years ago but am thinking I will probably have to change the steering gear, if anyone knows for shure on this would appreaciate it thanks.

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KULTULZ
Gearhead

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From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002

posted 09-02-2004 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First off, I do not have that period MPC.

But this question has me wondering also. The 1957 FORD Shop Manual makes no distinction (if there is any) between the two boxes (if there are two boxes). Now the 1958 MERC Shop Manual does.

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The manual steering gear is similiar to the power steering gear, but is of heavier capacity, has a different ratio, and incorporates needle bearings on the sector shaft. The gear used is of the ball and rack type. Standard steering has 60 recirculating balls, and power steering has 54 recirculating balls.

Now the 57 FORD used a worm and gear box and was upgraded to recirculating ball in 1958, making steering effort easier and making the actaul box smaller in size, so the 58/59 retro-fit is desirable.

I am going to refer you to a 57 FORD site and also a Y-BLOCK site. They are much more knowledgeable on this than I am. There is also discussion of 60/64 box upgrades, Saginaw upgrades and rack upgrades. The trouble is, they never seem to go into enough detail to draw any type of conclusion from it.

When you find the answer, please post it here so that the rest us may learn also.

-1957 FORD International-

-Y-BLOCK Discussion Group-

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I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968.

Also older FORD Special Service Tools

-MEL Engine Forum-

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KULTULZ
Gearhead

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From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002

posted 09-07-2004 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
-Here's Your Answer-

Just the steering arm is different according to them, and they know what they say.

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I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968.

Also older FORD Special Service Tools

-MEL Engine Forum-

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Bob Hopkins
Gearhead

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From: BRIDGEPORT NJ USA
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 09-21-2004 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as a side note I just put a 1959 recurtlating box in my 1956 Fairlane bolt in fine had to do some fidling with column post andmount bracket 59's about 3/4" longer between box and wheel and wheel is thicker at hub than 56 ,BUT it do steer better than the old worm and sector box that was in 56.I tell you what odd though I have a 57 Custom too and I disambled the steering box awhile back and It has a recullatingsteering box in iteven though they say Ford did not start installing them till 58, bit It has a hollow steering shaft that horn wire passes through like 56-57 and not the solid shaft like the 59???

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