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Rory McNeil
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From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
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posted 06-26-2004 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I decide to swap the original 332 FE in my 59 for either a 390 or 428CJ, I`d like to install a set of headers. I`m only aware of 2 companies that make headers for this application, FPA makes a Tri Y shorty (not really what I`d prefer), & Hedman lists a full length header. However, I`ve never seen either in a car. Anybody here have any personal experiances with either? Any other companies make headers for this car? I have manual steering & brakes, but I would like to keep the column shifter if I stay automatic (currently a 2 speed, but would go C6 with the larger engine). Years ago I tried a set of the long 64 427 exhaust manifolds, but they didn`t fit, so I doubt a 63-64 header would work. Thanks.

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78 Fairmont 428 4 speed [email protected]
80 Fairmont 302 5 speed [email protected]
85 Mustang NHRA M/Stock 302 5speed. [email protected]
59 Meteor (Canadian Ford) 2 dr sedan 332, auto
74 F350 ramp truck 390 4spd

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KULTULZ
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From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002

posted 06-27-2004 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might look at -CRITES RESTORATIONS- for a full length header. They make quality products.

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HEADERS - 2” tube 3 1/2” collectors Must use alternator. Add $20 for street reducers.

*1957-59 Galaxie-Fairlane 352-427 auto & std w-PS—$329*

*Oil filter adapter to clear header tube FE on 1957-59 - $55*


The origional 390HP/427 cast headers won't work in a 57/59 chassis (it's a shame as they are pretty) due to frame rail width. If you can find them, a set of cast 428CJ manifolds will fit.

There are also two different exhaust bolt patterns (cyl. head), vertical and horizontal so make sure the head you decide to use will be compatable with the chosen header flange.

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mtkawboy
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posted 09-27-2004 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mtkawboy   Click Here to Email mtkawboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
62-63 427 cast irons will work if you angle mill the exhaust side of the head & headres 1/8 inch, grind down the steering box, grind a hole in the left header by the steering box and weld in an upside down freeze plug to clear the steering box. I had a set on my 406/57 in 1963. Ballenger Bros used to make a horrible fitting slip together set of tubes too. Once they get hot they were a nightmare to get on again.

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KULTULZ
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posted 09-27-2004 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KULULZ;

The origional 390HP/427 cast headers won't work in a 57/59 chassis (it's a shame as they are pretty) due to frame rail width.

If you can find them, a set of cast 428CJ manifolds will fit.


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Originally posted by mtkawboy:

62-63 427 cast irons will work if you angle mill the exhaust side of the head & headres 1/8 inch, grind down the steering box, grind a hole in the left header by the steering box and weld in an upside down freeze plug to clear the steering box. I had a set on my 406/57 in 1963. Ballenger Bros used to make a horrible fitting slip together set of tubes too. Once they get hot they were a nightmare to get on again.


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Never thought of that...angle mill the heads and the manifolds. Of course, it would be impracticable these days to ruin a set of castings if you could find them, but what an idea! So you couldn't tuck them close enough to the block skirts to not have to notch anything, huh? Thanks for that suggestion!

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I am looking for information concerning factory performance/aftermarket speed parts (1958/1960) used on the MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) (Also Thunderbird 59/60) Engine Series (383-410-430-462) produced from 1958 thru 1968.

Also older FORD Special Service Tools

-MEL Engine Forum-

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Rory McNeil
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posted 09-28-2004 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even if I had another set of the 427 long manifolds, I just couldn`t bear to hack them up. Luckily, I ran into a fellow from the Seattle Washington area, who GAVE me a pair of ancient Heddman? full length headers, that he used to have on his 390 powered 57 Ford Custom 300 2 door sedan. He showed me some pics of the car, which he raced in the mid-late 60`s. These headers had been hanging on the garage wall for over 30 years, and are in remarkably good condition. They are a bit unusual, in that the front 2 tubes on each side are joined together, like a Tri-Y, but the remaining tubes are normal. So the primary tubes all start out at 1 3/4", but a few inches out, the #1&2 tubes, as well as the #5&6, join together, into 2" tubes. Thus, each collector has 3 tubes, one at 2"per side for the foreward cyl`s, the other 2 are 1 3/4". I imagine that the pairing of the front cyl`s was for upper control arm clearance. Defineatly a little different!

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78 Fairmont 428 4 speed [email protected]
80 Fairmont 302 5 speed [email protected]
85 Mustang NHRA M/Stock 302 5speed. [email protected]
59 Meteor (Canadian Ford) 2 dr sedan 332, auto
74 F350 ramp truck 390 4spd

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