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Bob Hopkins
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posted 02-19-2004 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6882&item=2459542272

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KULTULZ
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posted 02-19-2004 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah...It started a big controversey at the Y-BLOCK Forum also;

-Go To The MERC HP Thread-

The 312 MERC engine shown has a few details wrong on it.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-19-2004 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool car. Did you guys see the Walker Continental glass packs?

Are those air cleaners correct?

This one is a little before my time you know.

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Fastymz
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posted 02-19-2004 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very
Whats the glass jar on the drivers side for?

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KULTULZ
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posted 02-19-2004 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Are those air cleaners correct?

No they are not. This is one of the things that started all the buzzing.

quote:
Whats the glass jar on the drivers side for?

That's how they used to run moonshine...

Naw...That's the winshield washer reservoir.

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Fastymz
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posted 02-19-2004 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KULTULZ:
That's how they used to run moonshine...

Naw...That's the winshield washer reservoir.


I like the moonshine idea better.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-19-2004 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll bet the mufflers sure sound good.

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Alex Denysenko
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KULTULZ
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posted 02-25-2004 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Subject- 1956 MERCURY 312CI M 260 Option

Installation as shown in subject car;

Actual factory release photo (from magazine) sent to me by a very kind gentleman;

(This photo quality may be poor as I had to cut an illustration of a 317 PONTIAC 2X4 as per board rules.)

Can you see the difference in the air cleaners and fuel filter (upside down) just for starters?

Rocker cover color is incorrect also. The scheme shown was for the 235 HP cam upgrade from the stock 225 HP (running production).

CORRECTION:

Well...As I think about this last statement...I could be wrong. Actually the car could have come assembled as a 235HP before the M 260 upgrade.

[This message has been edited by KULTULZ (edited 02-25-2004).]

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Bob Hopkins
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posted 02-25-2004 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know I do remember seeing them air cleaner on someting i rode in the mid-late 50's,brother-in-law was hotroder/racer,with wicked fast53Merc and some 50 Olds then a 57 J-2

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KULTULZ
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posted 02-25-2004 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A gentleman from ENGLAND must have seen my post over on the IMOA board and sent me the picture. Really nice of him as it answers what air cleaner came on the option. The parts list calls for two cleaners. Seems to me some aftermarkets were available that looked similiar.

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Darkman270
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posted 03-08-2004 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darkman270   Click Here to Email Darkman270     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That gas filter just sold on Ebay. The seller claimed it was supposed to mount with glass up. Which way is right.

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-08-2004 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's more like what I thought I had remembered from my model car building days.

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Alex Denysenko
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KULTULZ
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posted 03-08-2004 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Darkman270:

That gas filter just sold on Ebay. The seller claimed it was supposed to mount with glass up. Which way is right.


Well, on the M 260 option, it is glass bowl down as shown in the factory release photo. Now, on another board that I frequent, is a knowledgeable person that works in a BIRD restoration shop and says they are installed upside down on the 4V 312. I have found an illustration in an older FORD specific text that shows the BIRD E-CODE (8V) as having a metal cannister filter mounted right above the water pump.

I just don't understand why they would have assembled them inverted as when you go to change the element it is going to make a nasty mess...

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KULTULZ
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posted 03-19-2004 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MORE CONFUSION

quote:
Darkman270 posted;

That gas filter just sold on Ebay. The seller claimed it was supposed to mount with glass up. Which way is right.


I am not sure at this point. I know the M 260 option is down. The below photo shows a '57 BIRD restoration (not dedicated as it shows a SANDEN air compressor). But I have other shots that show the glass bowl down on the '57 4V (and is placed ahead of the intake manifold like the F-Code 8V, even though the F-Code utilizes a metal cannister type with a metal bowl). Maybe the 55/56 was inverted?

The filter was mounted on the bottom of the fuel pump on the FORD so there must have been a clearance problem on the BIRD.

Now I have a '58 MERC 383 photo (appears to be factory) that has the bowl inverted.

Just another one of those factory detail thingies to drive you crazy. That is why I would never try a dedicated restoration...They would have to put me in the Loonie Bin...

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-19-2004 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI, GM did the same thing with the glass filters.
I just saw an old late 50's Poncho Tri-Power.
Single carb applications were one way, and multiple were inverted. Odd isn't it.

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Alex Denysenko
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
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KULTULZ
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posted 03-19-2004 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KULTULZ   Click Here to Email KULTULZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One reason for the glass sediment bowl was to be able to watch for trash and water. If it is inverted, what is the use?

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