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BornInAFord
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posted 02-07-2003 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad has a 55 Customline sedan that I was born in the back seat on Interstate 5 on the way to the hospital (but that's another story). It has the original 2BBL 272 and 3spd w/Hohner overdrive with 162,000 miles. He's had it since 1962, but it has been parked in a barn undriven since 1985. He wants to restore it (new floors, a bit of rust work in the front fenders, new headliner and upholstery), but is looking to put in a 289 or 302 while he rebuilds Y-Block. BTW, it's never even had the pan off--that's pretty good for that mileage!

Do any of you know if he needs an adapter for the transmission? How about motor mounts? How about the radiator? Any of you ever done this conversion before?

Daniel

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mellowyellow
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posted 02-09-2003 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend in NC has a 57 T-Bird with a 69 302 and C-4. RUns great! BOught it that way but says it sure beats the WHY block.

The latest M&Fords has a yellow 55 T-Bird feature car with a 5.0 EFI. Pretty slick!

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posted 02-09-2003 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He will at least need an adaptor for the bellhousing. The '65 and later small blocks are 6 bolt bellhousings vs the 5 bolt earlier ones. The motor mounts will be different, too. Radiators are easy to adapt, though.

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BornInAFord
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posted 02-09-2003 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Steve. Do you known if the early Y-blocks were 5 bolt as well? I might try to find motor mount adapters from Dearborn or another aftermarket vendor...

Daniel

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DidgeyTrucker
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posted 02-09-2003 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DidgeyTrucker   Click Here to Email DidgeyTrucker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Y-block bellhousing bolt pattern is more like an FE block. The transmisson will more than likely bolt up to a regular 302 bellhousing. At one time Hurst made adapters for almost any engine swap. This will be a fairly easy swap if you know somebody handy with tools.
Y-blocks are still popular. You can still get hop-up parts for them.

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WARDF
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posted 02-27-2003 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WARDF   Click Here to Email WARDF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey borninaford, my grandfather owns a house at Black Butte Ranch, you live in beautiful country there. Yes you can fix up a "y" block but they are pretty expesive, and I wouldn't hook up a 302 to one of those old slush boxes(ford-o-matic) either. just get a good 302 c-4 combo and they will fit very easily. I'm not sure what year but early 70s galaxies or ltds disc brakes spindles and all bolt right on. I've done it.

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BornInAFord
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posted 02-27-2003 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is beautiful here (maybe someday I'll post pictures, but that's off topic--I could take pictures of my cars with the mountains in the background...) We have a column shifted manual tranny with overdrive that I think is very beefy. We will likely keep the old Y in it for nostalgia's sake and for the great sound. Solid lifters, oil bath air cleaner, enough room in the engine bay you could park an entire ricer in (especially a melted down one).

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BornInAFord
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posted 02-27-2003 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should mention that in the 70's during the last gas "crisis", my dad messed around with the fuel and exhaust system and got over 30MPG in it. I think if we can get back to that, we'll be happy...

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posted 02-27-2003 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trans-Dapt still offers the SBF to Y block transmissions adapters.

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SlowFord
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posted 02-27-2003 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SlowFord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few months back, I spoke with a guy who has a 302 in his '57 Ford. The motor mounts that he used were Parts Master 31-2220 and 31-2221, which should be available at your local parts store. The C4 transmission mount he used was from a late 60's Ford.

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BornInAFord
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posted 02-27-2003 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info

Any of you who are familiar with the Y to SBF swap know about radiator issues? I suppose we could try an 3 or 4 core aluminum one from one of the rod shops...

Daniel

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Rory McNeil
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posted 02-27-2003 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know it`s not exactly the same swap, but when I swapped a 72 Ford truck 360 "FE" in my 57 Sedan Delivery years ago, I retained the original rad from the stock 272 that the car came with. It cooled the big block just fine, although you would have to check to see if the rad hose nipples are in the correct location for your SB.

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Bob Hopkins
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posted 02-28-2003 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
small block in a mid 50's sholud be a bolt in remember they had "y-blocks" in fullsize Fords untill 61 and smallblocks started in 62 and 61-61 Fords frames are basely the same frame

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