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ctastang
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posted 06-29-2006 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang        Reply w/Quote
Yesterday I planned to gas up Anni and switch her and Windy around so Windy could be the daily driver for two or three weeks. I do this routine every few weeks and don't have any problems. Well, Windy wouldn't start When you open the door, the window is supposed to go down a fraction. It didn't. No interior lights. Turn the key - no start - nothing, nada Okay, shut that garage door and took Anni out for the errands and topped off her gas anyway. Today after work, I called the dealership. I was told to call roadside assistance and have them tow Windy in. (Covered under warranty). I okayed that as long as it was a flatbed. Within the hour, Century Towing was here. He put a power supply on the car, got the key buzzer for a few seconds and that was about it. Windy didn't start. So, on the flatbed she went. The service department will get to her tomorrow. What caused the drain on the battery to make it die in less than a year and only 1400 miles on the car Why wouldn't she start with the jump? Anybody else had this type of problem with the '05/'06's?

Carole

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honeyburst
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posted 06-29-2006 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
wow.......I've seen a few vibration problems (rear end) and a LOT of radio issues...but nothing like that....
Do you have an aftermarket alarm ???
I'll mention this to our driveability tech tomorrow AM.....

honeyburst
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posted 06-30-2006 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
just talked to our tech....he says it sounds like the battery "took a dump"....should be under warranty....just need to replace the battery.......if this ISN'T the problem, please let me know.....I'll tell him and he can look for it on other 'Stangs in the future.
Bryan

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 06-30-2006 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
You should also have them check the current draws and make sure nothing is pulling more than it should.

When was the last time you started it up?

Sounds like Wendy doesn't like to be ignored.

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ctastang
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posted 07-01-2006 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang        Reply w/Quote
Bryan, the battery has now been recharged. They did not replace it. All tests say battery is okay and is charging properly. Also, nothing shows up as causing a drain. We shall see.

Steve, I got a chuckle out of your reply. Unfortunately, I can't ignore Anni either. Windy was used the first week of June including a trek out to the club meeting which is a decent run. She also went to Jenro's the following Saturday since Miss Stang was in Dave's garage awaiting a part.

Guys, I still don't understand this. Anni's battery has been in her since at least October 2001 (when we bought her) and she takes the two or three week at a time layoff without any problems. Guess I'll keep the cell phone in Windy just in case. Fortunately my cars seem to like to break down at home.

Carole

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-01-2006 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
The first of June isn't a long time, I question the tech's finding of no drain. If it happens again and they still say there's no drain I'd demand a new battery.

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I65Stang
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posted 07-02-2006 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang        Reply w/Quote
I agree with Steve but I wonder what is meant by "no drain." There is usually a "threshold" that is determined to be ok by the factory, wonder what it is on an '06. These thresholds are basically a way of getting out of doing repair work under warrantee. Look on your paper and see if it says what sort of draw was found (they should have put a number down).

Guess the memory on the radio and computer really suck some power in an '06 .

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ctastang
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posted 07-02-2006 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang        Reply w/Quote
Tim, the only number on my paperwork said that the system is charging at 14.30 volts.

Carole

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honeyburst
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posted 07-03-2006 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyburst        Reply w/Quote
is this the first time you've let Windy sit? If not, this is the first time she's done this, correct? REALLY stupid question, but one I've been guilty of myself....any chance an interior light was left on (via the dimmer or an unclosed door)?.....I had a conversion van at one time...it had the track lighting around the headliner, hidden by a wood railing...only drove the thing during the day (light outside)...had to jump it off three days in a row.......it turned out I had turned on the track lighting and didn't realise it.........stupid, but it happens....
Just a thought

SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-03-2006 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ctastang:
Tim, the only number on my paperwork said that the system is charging at 14.30 volts.

Carole


That's tells you what the alternator is putting out but not what the system draws. I bet they didn't even check it.

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I65Stang
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posted 07-03-2006 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
That's tells you what the alternator is putting out but not what the system draws. I bet they didn't even check it.


Reading my mind Steve. That or they used one of the automated charging system check machines that will say "Draw OK" but not give any number to verify with (I have seen those machines be wrong too many times to mention). You got a volt meter Carole (or just ask Dave to check it for ya )?

ctastang
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posted 07-05-2006 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang        Reply w/Quote
Windy & Anni alternate as my daily drivers - they each sit two to three weeks at a time. I got Windy in September, so this has been going on for nine months now. Nothing was left on or open on Windy when I parked her. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this shouldn't have happened. Thanks guys.

Carole

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ctastang
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posted 07-10-2006 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang        Reply w/Quote
Now if I could just get everybody to quit moving the seat on my cars! Those 6-way power driver's seats are a pain to get back where I had them. I'm not short and I do have long legs, so why do they always have to move the seat when they are only going for a quick test drive???

Carole

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GTRocks
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posted 07-11-2006 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks        Reply w/Quote
Cuz they can't get in!!

(my wife is short)

I love memory seats!

ctastang
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posted 07-25-2006 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang        Reply w/Quote
Bryan, something I heard at the cruise-in this weekend that was interesting. Seems a couple '05 people are having the same problem I am. If the car sits for 2-3 weeks, the battery goes dead. The really bad part is that the techs can't seem to figure out what is causing the drain. Can you check with your tech and find out anything?

Carole

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-27-2006 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
You'd think that would be a widespread problem, then, because often new cars sit in stocking lots and dealerships for long periods of time.

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AKBOSSMAN
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posted 08-02-2006 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AKBOSSMAN        Reply w/Quote
Well......

"Legend" did that to me once. and I had heard of that problem right as I got him. As a Motorcraft Battery Marketer I would say make sure you get a good charge and remember that a fully charged battery is at 12.6volts (6 cells x 2.1 volts) and at 12v it is almost 70% down. Short trips are not always enough to recharge a battery these days. You can get a battery maintainer for a few bucks and it will fix the problem too!

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ctastang
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posted 09-08-2006 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang        Reply w/Quote
Here we go again. Today was "swap" day. Windy was dead. She went back to the dealership on a flatbed.

Carole

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ctastang
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posted 09-12-2006 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang        Reply w/Quote
The shop called yesterday. The verdict is bad alternator. Naturally they didn't have one in stock. Sometime today she should be ready to come home.

Carole

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Jimmy Ray
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posted 09-17-2006 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimmy Ray        Reply w/Quote
Carole,
How did they come to the concuison it was the alternator.... According to their own prior checks it was putting out enough charge....

I'm with everyone else on this board, it has a power drain that is killing the battery(unless there was some internal short that drained the battery when the engine isn't running)..

I also never trust automotive battery that has been drained, to the point of death.... My experineces are it will not last, once it has been hurt.

Hopefully I'm wrong, and windy will be good to go, but I personally believe not.

SteveLaRiviere
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posted 09-17-2006 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
I translate that into "We can't figure it out, let's start throwing parts at it."

Good luck, hope that's it. {but it's probably not}

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