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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-14-2004 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...is that the V6 looks just as good, if not better, than the GT. It doesn't feel like you are being 'punished' for getting the lower optioned model, if you know what I mean. For example, on my '94 F-150 XL, I can tell by the rubber floor mat and the seat and door panels that Ford was pissed at me for not getting the XLT package.

I also think the prices for the '05s are very reasonable. You can get a pretty decent V6 for $20k and a fairly decent GT for $25k. Compare that to a GTO/Cavalier going for $36k, or a horribly ugly Chrysler product with a 'hammy' for $30k, and as for the V6, you can't find anything as tenth as cool as a Mustang for $20k. Period.

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kcode
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posted 12-14-2004 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve...I agree with you on the looks of the V-6. Got to drive one of our club members GT friday night. No comparison to Becks GT, the new one seems like it alot bigger, far more interior room. When the second intake valve opens its like the secondaries of a Holley kicking in. The first time I touched the brakes it about put Beck and I through the windshield. The electronic throttle is a bit tricky though, thats the only fault I could pick up on in a short drive. I told our sales guy to call us when he gets a Black GT in.

Mike

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-15-2004 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is the electronic throttle tricky? Is there a perceptable lag?

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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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SUBMARINER MUSTANGER
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posted 12-16-2004 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SUBMARINER MUSTANGER   Click Here to Email SUBMARINER MUSTANGER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
How is the electronic throttle tricky? Is there a perceptable lag?


As a "lucky" guy to be able to work on and drive these vehicles everyday, I haven't noticed any lag with the "fly by wire" throttle, and love the smooth feel of it. No engine vibrations through the pedal now. I haven't driven a Mustang yet, but just about everything else has the electronic throttle. The only bad thing I've seen is that if you somehow flood the car (yes we've seen it already on the LS's), you'll never get the car started. Before, if you flood it, you just mash the pedal to the floor to shut off the fuel, but for some stupid reason, Ford hasn't programmed that into the processor. So, if you flood the engine, jamming the pedal does no good because there's no cable. Anyway, had to pull the plugs out of the LS, clean them up and run the crap out of it. It just amazes me that electronic fuel injection has been the norm on just about every new vehicle since the early to mid '80's, and people are still pumping the accelerator pedal before they start their car.


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Past Mustangs: '84 GT 5-speed; '91 GT auto; '70 M-code Mach 1, grabber yellow; '95 GT-S 5 speed, green, wrecked and totalled; 1995 GT-S 5 speed, bright yellow; '94 6-banger, wifes; '89 LX 5.0 vert, '90 LX 5.0 hatch, '69 M-code Mach 1, 4 speed, 1990 5.0 LX 'vert w/ AOD converted to T-5.

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IIGood
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posted 12-16-2004 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIGood   Click Here to Email IIGood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Craig, if you flood the engine (however), couldn't you trip the fuel cutoff switch? Shut it off, then back on (or would that be, turn the cutoff on, then off )?

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kcode
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posted 12-16-2004 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a tendency to "blip" the throttle once in a while. The new one didn't seem like it responded as quick. Also when you get close to redline it seem to shut the throttle down without lifting the footpedal. Scott, the owner was telling me that. He has already run an open track with it. Said it handled almost as good as his well prepped Roush. When we drove it, we had just gotten out of Becks GT, so our comparison was fresh, what a world of difference.

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Catmando
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posted 01-06-2005 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catmando   Click Here to Email Catmando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too like the base car. For me, a car has to look good without all the do-dads they put on them now. A clean car just looks pure to me. Also, I know we are all he-man guys, but if you get the 5 spd auto I can only imagine how nice that would actually be. My wife has an 05 Merc Mountaineer with the 240hp 4.6 and the 5 spd auto and 3.55 gears. WOW!! The thing screams and its neat because of the very close 1-2-3 ratios, you get all of these shifts but the engine just stays up in the rpms until it gets into 4th. Very nice automagic.

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65driver
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posted 01-06-2005 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65driver   Click Here to Email 65driver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just rented one while I was in Memphis. Its a great car. The 6 goes pretty good, and turning the traction control off, it will spin the tires quite easily. The only complaints I had were that the 6 is very buzzy and lots of vibration at idle and hard acceleration, but that went away at cruise. Also, some of the interior pieces, namely the door handles, are very cheap, and feel like thier gonna break with a little hard use.

Other than that, an awesome handling car. Can't imagine what the GT runs like. Lots of thumbs up, from old and young alike.

Trying to get the wife to look at a GT in the Spring.

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