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Tien
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posted 01-22-2003 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all new to thiss part of the web.
I have a '78 Mustang II GT and was hoping I could get some spec on the car.

I am looking for power, weight, torque, and all the basic dimensions on both the 4cyl. GT, like mine, and on the Cobra Mustang II.

I am gona be doing a conversion on mine and I want to get it as perfect to Cobra specs as possible.

All help is greatly appreciated thanks,
Tien M.

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IIGood
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posted 01-22-2003 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIGood   Click Here to Email IIGood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The good (or bad, depending how you look at it) thing about the Mustang IIs is that there weren't many things that were special between models. Most of the performance of the IIs was strictly paint-on. There were only a few trim lines available, the coupe, the fastback, the Cobra II, the Mach 1, the Ghia, the Stallion, and the King Cobra.

The fastback and the coupe had different body code digits in the VIN, as did the Ghia and the Mach 1. The Cobra, Stallion, and King Cobra were mostly just body add-on packages, and did little for performance. Maybe beefed up the suspension a tad, but there were no engine differences. The King Cobras were only available with a V8 though.

A Cobra is fairly simple to "clone." All you'd need to get your hands on would be the front and rear spoiler, and the graphics package. Cobra IIs were available with any engine...some even had a 4 cylinder. There was no difference between a base model engine, and an engine found in a Cobra. So converting your 4-cylinder fastback to a Cobra II clone will be extremely easy. If you want to swap in a V8 from the time, nothing special would need to be known about them...the Cobra's V8 was the same 139 horsepower V8 found in every other V8-equipped Mustang II.

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Frank S.----MCA Member 40390
'99 Mustang coupe
'77 Ghia--"II Good"
'76 Cobra--project

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Tien
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posted 01-23-2003 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey thanks for the info.

So when I do the mottor swap what should I be looking for? I'm guessing a 302 pushrod from that time, or did they use a different motor?
Are there any good web sites or catollogs I should buy from with good quallity products, or should I try to find the real things at a junkyard?

Sorry for sounding dumb, I have to confess I have been a Camaro man all my life, so the pony stuff is kinda new to me, even though I have had this beautifull car since 1995.(got it for my 15th b-day)

If the tempture ever gets above -5 in this area I will be getting some pics of her for everyone.

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IIGood
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posted 01-24-2003 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIGood   Click Here to Email IIGood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tien:

So when I do the mottor swap what should I be looking for? I'm guessing a 302 pushrod from that time, or did they use a different motor?
Are there any good web sites or catollogs I should buy from with good quallity products, or should I try to find the real things at a junkyard?

Well, this is a personal preference really. About the only guys that use the stock engine any more in a II are those that are absolute die-hard into a concours or 100% original restoration. Not too many IIs doing that. Heck, I even had plans for my Cobra to be "mildly" modified.

You could get a pushrod engine from the same years...or even a later Mustang. A 5.0 is a 5.0 is a 5.0. Well, mostly. If you're going to be doing a total engine swap anyway, you could get a later 5.0 with the proper balancing (IIs had something like 28 oz. imbalance on the flywheel, after '79 they were 50 oz) and drop that in.

And you'll need the other typical things associated with an engine conversion swap...that tranny will have to go, you'll need to beef up the suspension, new motor mounts, probably the rear end, radiator, etc.

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Sorry for sounding dumb, I have to confess I have been a Camaro man all my life, so the pony stuff is kinda new to me, even though I have had this beautifull car since 1995.(got it for my 15th b-day)

Well, good to hear you've switched from the dark side. About the trickiest thing you'll have to worry about with these cars is headers. If you want to put headers on a V8 with manual tranny with these cars, it's very tricky to do. Space is at a premium.

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'99 Mustang coupe
'77 Ghia--"II Good"
'76 Cobra--project

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Tien
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posted 01-24-2003 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, good to hear you've switched from the dark side. About the trickiest thing you'll have to worry about with these cars is headers. If you want to put headers on a V8 with manual tranny with these cars, it's very tricky to do. Space is at a premium.

Well I haven't fully come over yet, I still love my Camaro's, and I have yet to be inpressed with any mustang after the II
I never have liked the fox bodys, and after driving a 2000GT, and 2000 SS one right after the other, The GT just dosn't do it for me.
BUT on the pluss side I love all Stangs from '78 and down.

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IIGood
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posted 01-24-2003 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIGood   Click Here to Email IIGood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tien:

I never have liked the fox bodys, and after driving a 2000GT, and 2000 SS one right after the other, The GT just dosn't do it for me.

You should go compare a 2003 GT to a 2003 Camaro. Oh, wait a second... (just teasing, of course)

The II was my first one, and I've become pretty addicted to it. I bought a '99 V6 2 years ago because the II just couldn't cut it with daily duties anymore. Kind of strange...when the '99s first came out, I didn't like them. Now I own one. LOL. I guess when you hook a car up right, it can look good.

And now, I'm slowly falling in love with the '05s...if Ford can refine those more, I think I'll trade up my '99 for a GT. But I'm getting off topic here. Sorry.

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Frank S.----MCA Member 40390
'99 Mustang coupe
'77 Ghia--"II Good"
'76 Cobra--project

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