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Topic: mustang II spindles, calipers, brackets, etc
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johnboy
Journeyman Posts: 4
From: Hueytown, Ala usa
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 06-25-2002 03:35 PM
   
Hi guys... new guy on the block with a Must II question... I'm building a '53 F-100 truck and using a Must II crossmember. (I know it's not a real mustang..but I am using MII parts, doesn't that count ??)I have a Heidts crossmember and have found the suspension parts. My question is about brakes etc I want to go with 11" rotors and calipers.. and I'd like to stay all ford.. my problem has been finding a kit that offers 11" rotors (usually Granada) and Ford calipers... surely something will cross to my application.. I have 77 MII spindles and need the caliper bracket and caliper that will fit with the Granada 11" rotors... anyone know what years/models/etc will get me to work and stop ??? thanks in advance johnboy
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MooseII78
Journeyman Posts: 36
From: LA
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 06-26-2002 04:38 PM
so in other words what your saying is another II got diced and its front end put on the hot rod alter.
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R Rainwater
Gearhead Posts: 519
From: Puxico,MO. USA
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 06-26-2002 09:40 PM
Sorry, Johnboy, I've got my first II and I'm not up on all that crossover stuff.
Bob R.
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johnboy
Journeyman Posts: 4
From: Hueytown, Ala usa
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 06-27-2002 07:34 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MooseII78:
so in other words what your saying is another II got diced and its front end put on the hot rod alter.
no, actually what I'm saying, in other words is that another II got diced by a dump truck that I wasn't driving. And you could think of it as me providing a new nice shiny home for the poor II parts that were languishing away in a salvage yard... don't you believe in reincarnation.. Instead of the shredder, they'll be in a nice old FORD product to live on in a happy contented life. j
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Maxwell_fax
Gearhead Posts: 221
From: Port Royal, PA, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-28-2002 03:30 AM
Been searching high and low for such a bracket.. I don't believe anyone has such a part on the market... The GM calipers are supposed to work alot better but I can understand the Keep your Ford all Ford... Been considering breaking out the torch, welder, and any other object of mayhem and trying to make/modify a caliper bracket..
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johnboy
Journeyman Posts: 4
From: Hueytown, Ala usa
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 06-28-2002 07:18 AM
I'm personally going with the Chevy stuff...ordered the brackets from Heidt's yesterday... but my cohort in Pensacola has found a source.. here's the scoopChassis Engineering in Iowa 1-319-643-2655
Bracket kit for ford cal $104.50
Banjo bolts pr $17 12mm
Banjo pr $22
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More later but he said braking is equal
you can call CE and see what the details, Charles has been working double shifts and hasn't had the time to do it... hope this helps
thanks for all the posts john, with the bowtie binders :-)
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roadsterII
Journeyman Posts: 32
From: West Olive, MI, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-28-2002 12:01 PM
johnboy, at least your using the II's remains in another Ford.
For your 11" brakes, check in just about any street rod magazine adds and they have the conversion kits your asking about from various manufactures.
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jnjrausch
Gearhead Posts: 70
From: silverdale,wa,usa
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-02-2002 01:05 AM
Look at an older Street Rod magazine etc. for "a-1 Racing." I do not know if they are still around. They offered the only all ford conversion using mid-size Ford ( granada?) calipers. I have heard that they have the same piston diameter as the stock MII. I personnaly have not verified this. Most people want larger/cheaper units, hence the GM bracket from Heidt's etc. Tried the number tonight. It was disconnected. probably a dead end now.A-1 Racing Parts Inc.
770 Bound Brook Rd. Middlesex, N.J. 08846
(732) 968-2323 ------------------
john
74 351C-4v Pro street
93 5.0lx reef blue
85 f150 4x4 riding high
68 galaxie 500 convert
77 T-bird Landau [This message has been edited by jnjrausch (edited 08-02-2002).]
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jnjrausch
Gearhead Posts: 70
From: silverdale,wa,usa
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-02-2002 01:59 AM
"chassis Engineering Inc. make an all Ford kit using 80-83 stang calipers and 11" granada rotors.------------------
john
74 351C-4v Pro street
93 5.0lx reef blue
85 f150 4x4 riding high
68 galaxie 500 convert
77 T-bird Landau
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Wooden
Gearhead Posts: 570
From: Colorado Springs, Co.
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-07-2002 12:28 PM
Check the following website! It looks like they may have moved.
http://www.a1racing.com
I already have the calipers and the rotors for mine, so I better order the brackets.
Later!
Joel------------------
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San Jose, Ca.
M&M #62
'77 Cobra II (White & REd stripes)
[email protected]
http://www.geocities.com//Heartland/Bluffs/7660/mustang.html
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Wooden
Gearhead Posts: 570
From: Colorado Springs, Co.
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-07-2002 01:05 PM
Well, just an update. A-1 racing products is not the same as a-1 racing parts. It looks like I'll be making my brackets also.
Later!
Joel------------------
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San Jose, Ca.
M&M #62
'77 Cobra II (White & REd stripes)
[email protected]
http://www.geocities.com//Heartland/Bluffs/7660/mustang.html
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Darkman270
Journeyman Posts: 2
From: Pensacola Florida
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-07-2002 07:29 PM
Can anyone say what size the caliper piston on the 80 - 83 Mustang is? How large is the GM piston that is comonly used in these kits.Thanks Charles in Pensacola
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33371
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-07-2002 08:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Darkman270:
Can anyone say what size the caliper piston on the 80 - 83 Mustang is? How large is the GM piston that is comonly used in these kits.Thanks Charles in Pensacola
The '80-'83 is a fox body, someone in the fox forum should know. Welcome to M&M!  ------------------
All Fords since 1977!
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Darkman270
Journeyman Posts: 2
From: Pensacola Florida
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-07-2002 08:55 PM
Sorry I forgot to mention how this relates to the Current question. The brackets from Chassis Eng. uses the 80 - 83 Mustang caliper.I can check tomorrow and find out. This will determine how it relates to the GM caliper. I don't have a Mustang II but I too performed emergency surgery to prevent the death of a Mustang II from being in vain. I am happy to say that a sucessful transplant is planned and the deserving recipient is a 57 F100 312 4 Bbl McCulloch supercharged. Unfortunately the Mustang II did not survive but in it's death has allowed a classic Ford to live again. The Blue Oval Medal of Honor will be awarded posthumously. Charles in Pensacola PS The Chassis Eng. part number is AU 2045.
They also have dropped spindles.
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69_sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 176
From: Camino Calif (yeah, it does snow here)
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 08-09-2002 01:11 PM
Yo Moose take a pill....every time someone says they have a MII IFS you guys go CRAZY...It's sorta become a generic term regardless who made the pieces mine is chassisworks but I still call it a Mustang II front suspension. Yes I can understand you gettin a little sensative but give us the benefit of the doubt before you jump on someone. Incase you don't know it the suspension doesn't HAVE to be cut off, us old guys still use wrenches...Sorry I'm calm now just blowin off steam...every time I tell someone that I have a deuce front end I get the lecture .
apologising in advance Jay------------------
ALL THROTTLE NO BOTTLE !
69 sportsroof(351 C)
65 Ranchero(200)now 351W
72 Ln 700 (361)
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Maxwell_fax
Gearhead Posts: 221
From: Port Royal, PA, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 08-12-2002 01:10 AM
I have the Mustang II IFS on my car as well...
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Gullatt's Mustangs
Journeyman Posts: 83
From: No Alabama USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 08:48 PM
The Mustang II is front stear and the Granada is rear stear, think about that a minute. quote:
Originally posted by johnboy:
Hi guys... new guy on the block with a Must II question... I'm building a '53 F-100 truck and using a Must II crossmember. (I know it's not a real mustang..but I am using MII parts, doesn't that count ??)I have a Heidts crossmember and have found the suspension parts. My question is about brakes etc I want to go with 11" rotors and calipers.. and I'd like to stay all ford.. my problem has been finding a kit that offers 11" rotors (usually Granada) and Ford calipers... surely something will cross to my application.. I have 77 MII spindles and need the caliper bracket and caliper that will fit with the Granada 11" rotors... anyone know what years/models/etc will get me to work and stop ??? thanks in advance johnboy
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Gullatt's Mustangs
Journeyman Posts: 83
From: No Alabama USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-23-2002 09:02 PM
Stear/Steer, I can smell the Grill(BBQ)write/right now ! ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33371
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-23-2002 09:08 PM
A way to look at it is that the more people that use MII front ends, the longer replacement parts will be available for them.So they are helping you out, actually. It's not like people are likely to be chopping saveable MIIs; they are most likely salvaging the parts from rotted out or crashed up MIIs. ------------------
All Fords since 1977!
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77sleeper
Gearhead Posts: 125
From: Mesa Arizona
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 08-24-2002 07:02 PM
I have seen 20+ restorable cars in 4 states that are missing front ends. I have also been told that once the front end has been removed the cars are a PITA for the yard to deal with so they usually go to the crusher if the front ends go
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The Cobraman
Gearhead Posts: 154
From: Edmond, OK USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-26-2002 12:47 PM
I guess it depends on one's definition of restorable. If it's rusty in the floors or needs quarters, to me it's a parts car.Frankly, I'm always amazed by guys that will spend 20-25 large on a rod, but want to cheap out with stock II parts, which really aren't all that pretty. Probably makes sense for the guys that actually drive them, but I wonder how many of those front ends actually get used once the trailer queen project is under way.
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Gullatt's Mustangs
Journeyman Posts: 83
From: No Alabama USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-26-2002 11:58 PM
I've cut several II's frontends out of "non-restorable" cars but won't even think about cutting on my solid Southern (Alabama Salt Free) '78 V-8 coupe I saved from the crusher but don't know if I will ever have time to restore it. But I do get great joy when the X brand boys need/want MII front ends and 9" rearends to make their POS a "real" car. Ken p.s. I've been saving these parts for the Ford lovers not the other brands.------------------
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SAMWE
Journeyman Posts: 35
From: Anchorage, Ak
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 08-28-2002 01:44 AM
Rear steer or front steer doesn't matter when talking brakes.When it is important is when dealing with the spindle and rack.
The spindle needs to accomadate ackerman angle.
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Gullatt's Mustangs
Journeyman Posts: 83
From: No Alabama USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 08-28-2002 08:35 PM
front steer, rear steer, I was referring to the location of the caliper in relation to the front steer MII spindle and The Granada rear steer calipers !
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