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FiveLiterDreamer
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From: Conway, AR
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 08-14-2001 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FiveLiterDreamer   Click Here to Email FiveLiterDreamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
could someone tell me how the setup goes on a car that had pwr steering,and a/c. The bottom pulley has 3 grooves. I guess I didn't pay good enough attention to the setup when I was taking it apart. When I put the fan spacer b/w the water pump pulley and the water pump, then the water pump pulley groove lines up b/w the first and second groove from the front of the bottom pulley, so i figure this is incorrect. When I put the spacer outside of the water pump pulley, then the water pump pulley groove lines up with the groove on the bottom pulley closest to the engine. I thought I could make one belt run the fan and alt. but I can't get it to line up this way. From the best I can tell, the fan pulley groove lines up w/ the groove closest the engine on the bottom pulley. The alt. pulley groove lines up w/ the middle groove on bottom pulley. ( This is with the spacer outside of the water pump pulley) If it goes this way though how does the fan belt keep tension on it?? If it just goes around fan pulley/water pump pulley and bottom pulley then I don't see an adjuster. I'm not using the power steering pump or the a/c if that has anything to do w/ it. If it does and since I'm not, how else would i get by w/out it?? thanx

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FiveLiterDreamer
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From: Conway, AR
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 08-14-2001 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FiveLiterDreamer   Click Here to Email FiveLiterDreamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancel Post. Problem fixed. used a 1" spacer b/w water pump and pulley to align it to middle groove on crankshaft pulley. All 3 line up now. Just in case anyone else has to do this.

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Mark
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From: N.E. Ohio
Registered: Apr 2002

posted 08-15-2001 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark   Click Here to Email Mark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

What 351 said.

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a351must2
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From: Snohomish, WA, USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 08-15-2001 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for a351must2   Click Here to Email a351must2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just ignore him ... that's all I do.

Nice that you figured a way out...the stock configuration one belt for the alternator, and a seperate belt for the water pump and power steering. Converting to a single belt requires doing what you did, or using a different set of brackets.

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mustangj
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From: fergus,ontario,canada
Registered: Mar 2001

posted 08-16-2001 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangj   Click Here to Email mustangj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just put a late model 351w ballancer pulley on with a 4cly fox-stang water pump pulley and stuck a Escort pulley on a 65 mustang alternator. I then put my welding helmet on and made the alternator mount. Hey come to think of it, I am a nut case!

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Maxwell_fax
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From: Port Royal, PA, USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 08-17-2001 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maxwell_fax   Click Here to Email Maxwell_fax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After reading that MustangJ...I love my serpentine belt!

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Mark
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From: N.E. Ohio
Registered: Apr 2002

posted 08-18-2001 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark   Click Here to Email Mark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Serpintines are pretty cool but aren't you stuck with what the factory put together?

The cool thing about V-Belts is the ability to mix and match. With a little imagination, time and tooling (which you should have in abundence if you want to modify a II) you can get anything you want.

Fact is, I have the 'proof of concept' 351 mounted and off the top of my head I couldn't tell you where any of the 'accessories' or their belts and pullies originated.

Except the fan, the fan came from MII #1. Couldn't say where the shieve came from, but it's a small one to keep fan speed up because of the final drive gearing.

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IIblue74
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From: memphis,tn
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 08-18-2001 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIblue74   Click Here to Email IIblue74     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wth serpentine you are sorta limited but there is a short early 80's period where there was a ribbed/v-belt setup (351 Crown Vic, etc.) that is kinda the best of both worlds. The ribbed belt runs the alt., water pump, crank and the v-belts run ps, ac and smog. The ribbed holds better and lasts longer and it's on (IMO) the most important stuff.

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Maxwell_fax
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From: Port Royal, PA, USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 08-19-2001 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maxwell_fax   Click Here to Email Maxwell_fax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The '95 -'95 Mustang and the '91 - 93 T-Bird/Cougar 5.0 serpentine stuff fits any Ford small block... Worst case scenaro you have to drill the timing cover for the dipstick.. As for unwanted accessories all I have is the Powersteering, alternator, and water pump driving on mine.... One extra idler and the correct length belt got rid of the ac and smog pump.. Although I will be putting the ac compressor back on this winter when I finally get the AC working again.. Thats the beauty of the serpentine... Wanna add an accessory? Just bolt it on and change the belt... Wanna lose one? Bolt an idler in it's place, or get a shorter belt.. Never again will I be rooting around for pulleys and brackets, cutting welding and bending along the way... Everytime I would get a V-belt setup that looked good it would blow apart in my face, or likewise I would get one that worked and decide to change something.... That and the 130 amp alternator liked to eat belts when the cooling fan kicked on...

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