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Transmitter Man
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From: London, UK
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posted 09-05-2005 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Transmitter Man        Reply w/Quote
I've just reached the midlife crisis and busted the bank with the purchase of a De Tomaso Longchamp GTS. This car runs the same 351C as the Pantera.
I'm looking to upgrade the points ignition to an electronic ignition system and just require something for 'reliable' street use.
rather than go for a stock Ford HEI which is rather bulky I saw these on ePay and wonder if anyone's had experience of using these?
They seem cheap at one third the price of an MSD!
I want economy as our UK fuel price has gone crazy (you think you guys have problems), so I need vacuum advance and am not sure if these have that.
Your thoughts for max economy?
the car runs a stock C6 auto box behind the Cleveland.

Phil
London, UK

Transmitter Man
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posted 09-05-2005 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Transmitter Man        Reply w/Quote
Forgot the add the ePay auction:

http://tinyurl.com/bfm55

ukracer
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posted 09-05-2005 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ukracer        Reply w/Quote
Hi Phil, I am UK based also (South Wales) and run Fords (460CJ/1970 Mustang, 351W/1969 Mustang circuit racer) and also have Clevelands for other cars. Personally I do not trust any aftermarket pointless systems and have used stock points distributors to fire both MSD and Crane systems. Never let me down in the past 15 years or so that they have been that way. I know a few people who have used pointless (myself included) and found them unreliable but most people have good luck. Just my 2p.
Cheers, Martin

Transmitter Man
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posted 09-05-2005 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Transmitter Man        Reply w/Quote
Hello Martin,

And there was I who thought even the stock Ford HEI had a good press as far as reliability was concerned, at least for a stock street car.
My reason for looking to get rid of a points ignition system was to improve maintainence. I want to fit, together with new plus and leads, and forget, at least for a year or so's worth of Sunday driving.

Phil

capri man
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posted 09-05-2005 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man        Reply w/Quote
BRAIN TRUST???? here???? are you serious??
welcome to m&m phil!! come on in to sams place and sit a spell. we got one of your ex neighbors here named phil.

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ukracer
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posted 09-05-2005 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ukracer        Reply w/Quote
Phil if it helps you decide at all, the points seem to last forever now (virtually no load with electronic kit) as they are just a switch. I check them about every 12/14 months. And I certainly do a bit more than the odd Sunday drive as I drive my car to the racetracks, race and drive home again. Sometimes it can be 400+ miles in a day with 30 mins or more of track time. I can't afford it to be unreliable!
Cheers, Martin

Transmitter Man
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posted 09-05-2005 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Transmitter Man        Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys.

You've kind of convinced me points 'ain't so bad':-)

One gets sucked into the hype!

I'll pop over to Sam's place.

Can one post pic's of ones steed as my bus is kind of unusual?

Phil

capri man
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posted 09-05-2005 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Transmitter Man:

Can one post pic's of ones steed as my bus is kind of unusual?

Phil



sure phil, post away!!

Hemikiller
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From: Killingworth, CT
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 09-05-2005 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemikiller        Reply w/Quote
To keep to the low end of the cost, the Crane XR-1 points replacement would be a good start. Others have had good luck with the Pertronix system, but for every success story, there seems to be another of multiple replacements, running problems, etc.

An MSD 6 series box coupled to a reman'd and re-curved Ford Duraspark dizzy is another excellent lower cost ignition system. This would be my choice for the "best" street ignition sytem.

I don't trust any of the aftermarket HEI systems. (GM derived system BTW, junk from day 1)

The Duraspark is small, reliable and cheap. Parts are normally (in the US anyway) as close as your local parts store.

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