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I65Stang
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posted 12-15-2004 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang        Reply w/Quote
Sorta like a Pantera but with an automatic( http://www.f1cartvideos.com/toptencar10.html ). Anyone ever seen one of these in person or remember them?


http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/52396845.html

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adragon8u
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posted 12-15-2004 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u        Reply w/Quote
Too bad there's no picture. First Pantera I ever saw was at a dealership in Bakersfield. I believe it was also the first 5 speed I'd ever seen too. We're talking early 70's.

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posted 12-15-2004 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIGood        Reply w/Quote
Yup. There's one around here that comes into work every so often. It's a weird color too...like a light creamy peachish color (after looking at the page, I guess that would be the "Suntan" color). Kinda funky. I've seen it about 4 times out in the lot...always parks up front in a handicapped spot.

Interesting...they never needed painting...colored acrylic...
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Daniel Jones
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posted 12-15-2004 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones        Reply w/Quote
> A Bricklin...Sorta like a Pantera but with an automatic

Perhaps at first glance but under the acrylic skin, the Bricklin was
a traditional Detroit sedan chassis: front engine, rear wheel drive,
recirculating ball steering, solid rear axle with leaf springs and drum
brakes, etc. The 351W was a 2 barrel low compression engine with cast
iron manifolds. Made all of 175 HP, IIRC. An AMC 360 was also offered.
The main attractions were the gullwing doors.

The Pantera is the real deal. Mid-engine Italian exotic, 351C, 5 speed
ZF transaxle, limited slip, four wheel disc brakes, double a-arm independent
suspension all around, rack-and-pinion steering. Would do 160 MPH.

> Anyone ever seen one of these in person or remember them?

There was one for sale here. Compared to my Pantera, the Bricklin looks
much more dated and a bit tacky in person. The fit and finish on this one
wasn't very good but I'm not sure if that was representative or not.

Dan Jones

I65Stang
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posted 12-15-2004 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang        Reply w/Quote
Thanks Dan, I figured you would know! This is the first time I've ever heard of a Bricklin so was curious about it. I was guessing it was either ultrarare or pretty humdrum.

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posted 12-15-2004 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamcometrue        Reply w/Quote
I know about these cars 'cause they were produced in my Province, New-Brunswick between 1974 and 1976. Over 3000 were produced.The company filed bankruptcy in 1976. The province lost 24 million dollars in the venture.
You can check this site: //bricklin.org/
The promoter was Malcolm Bricklin from Philadelphia.
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posted 12-15-2004 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ctastang        Reply w/Quote
A green one showed up at the cruise-in here once or twice last year. Other than that, I don't remember them at all.

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posted 12-15-2004 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
They were turds!
Problem plagued paint fading pieces of crap originally built with Kelvinator motors. Then later anemic FoMoCo 351W 2v's when Nash could no longer supply them with units.
Poor fit and finish, rattle traps that were back in the shop more than on the road.
When I was still a FoMoCo tech, the dealer I worked for was also a Bricklen dealer.
Window's fell off the tracks, (glued), gull wing doors would not stay open, a/c inopp and lots more.
In case nobody knew, Malcom Bricklen also brough us the Yugo.
To compare a Bricklen to a Pantera is like comparing a Pinto to a Shelby Cobra.

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posted 12-15-2004 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere        Reply w/Quote
There's a local guy here that has had one for decades. We still see it every once in a while. Alex is right, up close they are a turd.

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adragon8u
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posted 12-15-2004 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u        Reply w/Quote
Just found a site with a picture because this thread got my curiosity up. I have seen these before. They remind me of an Opel Cadet on steroids.
Also, that front bumper reminds me of those toy cars I had as a kid that "flew apart" when you pushed them up against a wall.

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Daniel Jones
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posted 12-16-2004 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones        Reply w/Quote
> To compare a Bricklen to a Pantera is like comparing a Pinto to a Shelby Cobra

I didn't want to say it but I'm glad you did :-)

There's actually a guy here who owns both. The Bricklin is his wife's car
and the Pantera is his. I talked to him briefly but got the idea that he
paid someone else to do the wrenching so he wasn't that familiar with
either car.

The other 351C-powered car I want is a Series II Iso Grifo. Very sweet.
In my fantasy garage it would be parked next to the Pantera, the AC Frua
428 convertible, the GT40, the Shelby Cobra, the Brock Superformance coupe,
and the Intermeccania Italia.

Dan Jones

Daniel Jones
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posted 12-16-2004 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones        Reply w/Quote
> Just found a site with a picture because this thread got my curiosity up.
> I have seen these before. They remind me of an Opel Cadet on steroids.

I always thought the Bricklin looked more like the Saab Sonnet III on 'roids.

http://www.supercars.net/garages/VICIOUS/2v2.html

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adragon8u
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posted 12-16-2004 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daniel Jones:
>
I always thought the Bricklin looked more like the Saab Sonnet III on 'roids.

http://www.supercars.net/garages/VICIOUS/2v2.html

Dan Jones



Oh man! almost twins. Maybe that's what I've seen in the past and just didn't know.

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mellowyellow
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posted 12-16-2004 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow        Reply w/Quote
Turd is putting it mildly. Remember making ads for a foreign car dealership that sold exotics. They got snookered into taking on the Bricklin. Up close, brand new, the peach leech was a born failure. They took delivery of a few, until the owner of the company considered one for his wife!! He drove it home and called the dealership to send a porter with his demo and to bring the POS back. The ones that I saw had AMC engines. There's one that comes to cruise nite once in a while. Can you picture a peach leech parked next to a Darrin, the one with the sliding doors, decked out in a vile tarter tooth green!!!!

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posted 12-18-2004 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
There's a local guy here that has had one for decades. We still see it every once in a while. Alex is right, up close they are a turd.


That thing sure will put some tire down,though!

MLariviere
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posted 12-18-2004 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere        Reply w/Quote
Were there TVR cars that were Ford powered? I saw one about 15 years ago,IIRC it had a 302 in it.

mellowyellow
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posted 12-19-2004 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow        Reply w/Quote
Sounds like the one that was a take off on the Griffith a fugly, short wheelbased turdette(short turd!) It had a rear end that was impossible to find parts for and was plagued with probs. Imagine the engine was the only thing that wasn't a prob.

cobravenom71
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posted 12-19-2004 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cobravenom71        Reply w/Quote
I have a 1971 Pantera in storage awaiting the finances for a complete restoration. And I mean 'COMPLETE'! It is currently undriveable, and in several pieces.
Anyway, the car was my Brother-in-laws before mine, and I drove it regularly for years before buying ot from him.
Coincidentally, he bought a brand-new bright orange Bricklin SV-1 in 1975 or so, and I got to drive that around some also.
My point is this: The Bricklin is nothing like a Pantera.
The Pantera reminds anyone who drives it of a temperamental high-strung car like a Ferrari, but with a butt-load more power! Just the way I like it.
The Bricklin, on the other hand, sems more like a typical mid-seneties Corvette: Hefty, ungainly, nose-heavy and not too impressive in the power department.
Sid's (the B.I.L.) had the Chrysler 360 4 barrel, which was only adequate for power, but the later ones came with a Ford 351 'Windsor' 2 barrel that was really embarassingly underpowered.
The only 'exotic' car I have ever driven that was less impressive than a Bricklin is a DeLorean DMC-12, which is a real dog.

The 'Pantera to Bricklin' comparison is kinda' like saying a 68 Shelby GT-500 is kinda' like a 76 Cobra-II.

Of course, if I wasn't so partial to Panteras, I probably wouldn't give a hoot about the comparison...but we all gotta have our pet peeves, right?

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Daniel Jones
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posted 12-19-2004 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones        Reply w/Quote
> Were there TVR cars that were Ford powered?

Yes. TVR use a variety of engines including 4 cylinder and V6 Fords (both
normally aspirated and turbocharged).

> I saw one about 15 years ago,IIRC it had a 302 in it.

The Griffith was a TVR that Jack Griffith had fitted with a 289, the 200
series had a plain 289, the 400 series had a 289 hipo. They were very light
but not very well developed and supposedly spooky to drive. Griffith went
on to develop a wide range of vehicles under the Intermeccanica brand.
See my partial list of Ford powered specials below for a list

> I have a 1971 Pantera in storage awaiting the finances for a complete
> restoration. And I mean 'COMPLETE'! It is currently undriveable, and in
> several pieces.

Cool. I have a '74 Pantera L in which I hope to install a new engine come
late spring.

> The Bricklin, on the other hand, sems more like a typical mid-seneties
> Corvette: Hefty, ungainly, nose-heavy and not too impressive in the power
> department. Sid's (the B.I.L.) had the Chrysler 360 4 barrel, which was only
> adequate for power,

Bricklin used AMC 360's which were a separate engine from the Chrysler 360.

Dan Jones

Parial list of Ford-powered exotics and specials:

AC Frua 428 (427, 428)
AC Ghia 427 (427)
AC 3000 ME (Ford 3.0L Essex V6)
AC Ace 5.0 (5.0L)
AC Ace 4.6L (5.0L, normally aspirated and supercharged)
Bowell Nagari (351C)
Bricklin SV1 (351W)
Detomaso Vallelunga (4 cylinder Ford)
Detomaso Mangusta (289 and 302 Ford Windsors)
Detomaso Pantera (Ford 351C, 302, and 351W)
Detomaso Lonchamp (Ford 351C)
Detomaso Deauville (Ford 351C)
Detomaso Bigua (4.6L)
Detomaso Guara (4.6L)
Iso Grifo (Ford 351C and 429/460)
Iso Lele (351C)
Iso Fidia (351C)
Griffith 200 400 (289)
Intermeccanica Italia and Torino (289 302, 351C)
Italia, Omega, Murena (289, 302, 351C)
Intermeccanica Murena (429)
Intermeccanica Griffin 2+2
Intermeccanica Squire SS-100 (Ford 250 I6)
Intermeccanica LaCrosse (Ford 351)
Laforza SUV (5.0L)
Qvale Mangusta (4.6L)
Shelby Cobra (260, 289, 390, 427, 428)
Shelby Cobra Daytona (289)
Sunbeam Tiger (260, 289 Ford V8)
TVR Tuscan V6 (Ford Essex V6)
TVR 3000M (Ford Essex V6)
TVR 3000S and Taimar Turbo (Ford Essex V6, turbocharged))
TVR Vixen and 1600M (Ford Kent 4 cylinder)
TVR Tasmin/280i (Ford Cologne V6)
TVR Tasmin 200 (Ford Cologne Inline 4)
TVR Tasmin Turbo (Ford Cologne V6 Turbo)

cobravenom71
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posted 12-19-2004 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cobravenom71        Reply w/Quote
That's right...an AMC 360, not a Chrysler. I forgot.

I65Stang
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posted 12-19-2004 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang        Reply w/Quote
I once again take back my comparison lol! Now I know its a pos but the webpages I looked at (love pages are all that I could find) made it sound like the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Dan, of that list could you tell me which ones of those are actually good cars so I dont make this mistake again?

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chip67
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posted 12-19-2004 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chip67        Reply w/Quote
alright, lets not start badmouthing pintos and mustang II's.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4511654421&category=6472&sspagename=WDVW

Wow.. thats not a bad looking car at all... At least now I have an idea of what a TVR is.

mustangs68
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posted 12-19-2004 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68        Reply w/Quote
I remember seeing a Pantera in the local Ford showroom back then.

A buddy who I worked with and his brother were into to those TVR's I know they had 2 of them maybe 3.
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Daniel Jones
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posted 12-20-2004 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones        Reply w/Quote
> Dan, of that list could you tell me which ones of those are actually
> good cars so I dont make this mistake again?

The Pantera is a favorite, of course. The Mangusta was interesting but
not all that well developed and they are very cramped for someone my size.
Also about 10 times as rare as a Pantera.

The Iso's were very nice. Road tests of the period showed them to be
among the best of the exotic car category. The early Iso's used small
block Chevy power but later switched to 351C and a few were fitted with
big block 429/460 powerplants. They used a DeDion rear axle and a pressed
steel chassis. The prettiest are the late Series II Iso Grifo models.

The Cobras are well known but not many are familar with the Frua and
Ghia bodied cars. The Frua was built on a coil sprung 427 Cobra chassis
with a 6" stretch and a Maserati-like body by Frua. They were available
as a coupe or convertible with early bodies being made of aluminum but I
think later ones may have been steel. Here's a picture of a green
convertible with wire wheels:

http://www.carsonline.com.au/AC_428_Frua_cabriolet.jpg

and a couple of pictures of a silver coupe:

http://www.heritageclassics.com/ac/69ac428/69ac428ext2.jpg
http://www.heritageclassics.com/ac/69ac428/69ac428ext4.jpg

and one of the interior:

http://www.heritageclassics.com/ac/69ac428/69ac428int1.jpg

They even had a usable trunk:

http://www.heritageclassics.com/ac/69ac428/69ac428trk.jpg

and finally a grainy picture of coupe and convertible:

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/9839/Frua.html

With something like 29 convertibles and 58 fastback coupes comprising
the total production run between 1965 and 1973, the are considerably
rarer than a 427 Cobra but go largely unnoticed and sell for much less
than a Shelby Cobra. The silver coupe in the links above recently sold
for only $58,500 with just 19598 miles. I'd imagine body panels would
be next to impossible to obtain but most of the mechanical bits would
be shared by the Cobra.

There were also two Ghia-bodied cars commissioned by Shelby in 1965.
They may have been even prettier than than the Frua but I think both
chassis numbers turned up later with Cobra bodies when the Shelby
prices sky-rocketed. A shame when you think about it.

I don't know much about the Intermeccanica Italia but it looks decent
on paper: tube frame, Italian body, 9" rear with disc brakes, etc.

Dan Jones

I65Stang
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posted 12-20-2004 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang        Reply w/Quote
Thanks Dan!

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Thanks,Dan. IIRC,this TVR or ISO Griffith that I saw didn't have side windows in the doors from the factory. It was sort of like a Cheetah,but at the size of a Triumph TR7. It had a finished interior,not like a race car.

My friend's brother has an 86 Alfa Romeo Spider. He thinks it's fast, LOL. He took me for a ride in it last summer,and wrung it out. It felt like it was fast,until I looked at the speedo! We were breaking a whopping 45 mph. I will give him this: It has over 130K on it,and it feels as tight as a new one.

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As I recall, the Bricklin was actually promoted as a "saftey vehile". I had seen several, & knew a guy who owned one years ago. The way I remember it, the earlier models had the AMC engine, which was replaced by the 351W later on. They were all automatics, and used really cheap looking AMC floor shifters & electrical switches & knobs. Back in 77 I had my 64 Falcon at a local race car shop getting a roll bar & ladder bars installed, & they were welding up large cracks in the gullwing doors of a Bricklin. Remember, the car was only a few years old at that time. The overall fit & finish of the car appeared to be as good as your typical Lada or Skoda. As for the DeLoreon, back in the mid 80`s, a co-worker had one for a while. Interesting looking with the stainless steel body, but mechanically, it was as exciting as a cold bowl of oatmeal. It had some weak knee`d Renault/Volvo engine, with an automatic, and was totallly underwelming to ride in. Definatly not in the same league as a Pantera.

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posted 12-21-2004 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69maverick        Reply w/Quote
I saw a Griffith at a Show this summer. It was in need of a resto but it looked like a Triumph with a 302! It could have been a pretty cool car if done right.

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posted 12-21-2004 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D        Reply w/Quote
Tim,,

You might want to check this our if you've got a little spare change laying around..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6057&item=4513055422&rd=1&tc=photo

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posted 12-21-2004 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones        Reply w/Quote
> IIRC,this TVR or ISO Griffith that I saw didn't have side windows in the
> doors from the factory. It was sort of like a Cheetah, but at the size of
> a Triumph TR7. It had a finished interior, not like a race car.

That sounds right. I know some of the early TVR roadsters used side curtains
like a Cobra. By the way, the Iso Grifo is a completely different vehicle
from the Griffith. The Griffith was an early TVR coupe that Jack Griffith
had a 289 V8 shoe horned into. The Iso Grifo is a larger 2 door exotic Italian
coupe.

> My friend's brother has an 86 Alfa Romeo Spider. He thinks it's fast, LOL.
> He took me for a ride in it last summer,and wrung it out. It felt like it
> was fast, until I looked at the speedo! We were breaking a whopping 45 mph.

A friend's MGTD is like that on back roads. It feels like you are reallly
moving but you're not.

If anyone is looking for a cool project vehicle, a guy in the Pantera club
has a couple of Pantera projects for sale:

> From: Kirby Schrader
> To: [email protected]
>
>
> Sort of testing the waters here to see if anyone is interested.
>
> Since it looks as if I'll be in Brunei longer AND since there is an
> opportunity to purchase a car that is more complete and ready to roll,
> I'm considering selling the two cars that I have which were planned to
> become track cars.
>
> 1) THPNNB05572 - A Group 4 body (with flares) that I bought from Keith
> Verges. Previously owned by a Michael Belcher Keith started making it
> into a vintage racecar, but never finished it. Titled.
> Various engine parts, roll cage partially finished, etc. More details
> if required.
> Picture at http://users.ev1.net/~schrader/PC080026.JPG
>
> 2) THPNMB02373 - Yet another rolling body that I initially started to
> turn into a racecar, but after buying the one above, that will not
> happen. Purchased in a roundabout way from Gary Hall. Titled. No
> engine. Picture at http://users.ev1.net/~schrader/PC080038.JPG
>
> So are these worth anything to anybody? Both are located in Houston.
>
> Otherwise, I guess parting them out is the other option.
>
> Constructive feedback is welcome.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Kirby

Dan Jones

I65Stang
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posted 12-21-2004 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Big D:
Tim,,

You might want to check this our if you've got a little spare change laying around..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6057&ite m=4513055422&rd=1&tc=photo



There was one last week that was "buy the GT get a '04 Mustang GT for free ."

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1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1991 Ford Festiva, 30+ mpg, enough said
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Big D
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From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
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posted 12-22-2004 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I65Stang:

There was one last week that was "buy the GT get a '04 Mustang GT for free ."


Hey,, That would be great.. You and the misses would both have new DAILY DRIVERS..

Don

tafinucane
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Posts: 48
From: Aptos, CA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 02-12-2005 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tafinucane        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:

In case nobody knew, Malcom Bricklen also brough us the Yugo.


He's the same idiot who's trying to introduce the Chinese Cherrycar, or whatever.

Just what the market needs--another Daiwoo Lanos/Geo Metro shoddy deathtrap.

F570rd
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Posts: 118
From: mpls.mn.hennipin
Registered: Oct 2004

posted 02-14-2005 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for F570rd        Reply w/Quote
30 years ago I worked at a Brick dealer,P.o.s. is all I can say.The squeeks and rattles is the stuff I had to deal with.All the one's we got were Ford powered.

cobrajeff
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Posts: 38
From: White Lake, MI, USA
Registered: Sep 2004

posted 09-07-2005 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cobrajeff        Reply w/Quote
Early Bricklins with the 360ci AMC engine were available with 4-speed trans as well as automatics. All of the Ford powered Bricklins were autos.
In the late 70's, my boss at Ford owned a Bricklin. I attended some of their events, and they were just as enthusiastic about their cars as most of us are.

As far as comparing it to a Pantera, though, that would be like apples & oranges. Here's a shot of my former Pantera parked next to a Bricklin:

The Bricklin was never intended to be a "performance car", and the Pantera was never intended to be a "daily driver" here in the rust belt. They both have had image problems over the years, but are still dearly loved by their proponents.

Here's another shot of my Pantera:

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4491&password=&sort=1&cat=5 00&page=28

And a shot of a Big Block Chevy powered Bricklin belonging to a friend of mine:

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=27195&password=& sort=1&size=medium&cat=500&page=

(note the 3" exhaust pipe coming out the rocker panel ahead of the rear wheel)

I still wish I had my Pantera (and my GT350's) but, I just don't have the room (or the money) to keep all of my favorite toys.

regards,

Jeff

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