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huckleberry
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Posts: 14
From: springfield,missouri,usa
Registered: Aug 2003

posted 08-05-2003 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for huckleberry        Reply w/Quote
I wanted to know your thoughts on purchasing a cobra replica. I already own original fords but I thought 2000 lbs and 500-700hp would be a lot of fun. Plus I don't have to be afraid to drive it. I've seen several for around 30,000 to 35,000. My work no longer allows me to spend the time to build a car. I thought I would take advantage of someone elses hard work. Any experience with these cars or what to look for(good or bad) or just general thoughts would be appreciated. I want a Ford Gt but I feel the price tag is a little too steep. Even if I could come up with the money, I don't feel that there is an automobile on earth worth over a hundred grand.

Bob Hopkins
Gearhead

Posts: 362
From: BRIDGEPORT NJ USA
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 08-06-2003 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins        Reply w/Quote
the ones I heard the best things about are ERA and Factory Five, I like the Cobra Datona Coupe the best,buy one of them and give me a ride!!!

Daniel Jones
Gearhead

Posts: 972
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99

posted 08-06-2003 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones        Reply w/Quote
> I wanted to know your thoughts on purchasing a cobra replica. I already
> own original fords but I thought 2000 lbs and 500-700hp would be a lot
> of fun.

See www.clubcobra.com.


> Any experience with these cars or what to look for (good or bad) or
> just general thoughts would be appreciated.

There are a large number of kits out there and the quality varies
considerably. There are a lot of variables to consider. Some are
more faithful to the original Cobra shape than others. There are
a bunch of variations on the suspension (Mustang II, Fox Mustang,
Jaguar, Corvette, and various custom approaches) and structure
(round tube ladder frame, square tube ladder frame, monocoque, etc.),
quality of the fiberglass (some have optional aluminum bodies), etc.

> I've seen several for around 30,000 to 35,000. My work no longer allows
> me to spend the time to build a car. I thought I would take advantage
> of someone elses hard work.

Another option is a factory-built roller. A number of manufacturers
build essentially complete cars except you install the engine and
transmission of your choice. Superformance builds a very nice roller
that is around $35K but you still need to come up with an engine (SBF,
460, or FE big-blocks) and transmission. All Superformance Cobras are
built as rollers in South Africa and imported to the States where
they are finished by the owners or an authorized dealer.

I've driven a friend's Superformance Cobra replica and have the sidepipe
burn on my leg to prove it :-) Externally, they look authentic, right
down to the Smiths Industries instrumentation, Halibrand style knock-off
wheels, and reverse shift lever. There's even an optional aluminum body,
though Eric's is fiberglass. The fit and finish is top notch. Underneath
they use a 2"x4" rectangular steel tube ladder frame with independent
suspension front and rear (unequal length upper and lower A-arms, ride
height adjustable coil-overs, Bilstein shocks, sway bars), tuned by Roush
Industries. The steering rack is from a VW Jetta, the brakes are Wilwoods,
and the IRS center section is from the Ford Motorsport catalog (aluminum
housing from a later IRS Cobra or Lincoln with 3.73:1 gearing).
Surprisingly, the suspension bushings on the sway bars were all rubber.
I couldn't tell what the A-arms were bushed with.

To make room for the set-back engine and transmission, the pedals in a
Cobra are offset. The brake pedal is where the clutch should be and the
clutch pedal is way over to the left. A shorter driver can get a straight
shot to the pedal but I'm 6" 4" and there's no way could I could. My leg
was rubbing on both the wood-rimmed steering wheel and the interior door
hinge. Taller drivers usually remove the seat tracks and bolt the seat
directly to the floor. That might lower the seat enough to provide a
decent shot at the clutch pedal but I'll need to try one on for size to
be sure. As it was, it was very awkward and I hit the brake pedal once,
trying to get the clutch. Surprisingly, the reverse shift lever wasn't
a problem at all. Eric added a Pro 5.0 shifter to the Tremec TKO and says
it made a huge difference over the stock shifter. It felt quite positive
to me.

Eric's engine was dyno'd at 556 HP so it has brutal acceleration, provided
you can get traction (a problem with the wide but not terribly sticky
305/50/15 BFG Euro TA's). I have immense respect for the driver that can
run these things on the edge. Short wheelbase, light weight, and a bunch
of power means you must treat the throttle with respect. It's a completely
different sort of driving experience compared to my Pantera, particularly at
high speed where the Pantera feels much more stable. Both are fun but in
completely different ways.

> the ones I heard the best things about are ERA and Factory Five

The Factory Five and the ERA cater to different crowds. The Factory Five
was created to be inexpensive to build and uses a 5.0L Mustang as a donor.
They provided good bang-for-the-buck but aren't as nice as some of the
high end replicas. Most FF Cobras are powered by small blocks. ERA
competes at the top end and most are FE-powered. I don't care for the
fact that ERA uses a Jaguar rear end which uses the half-shaft as the
upper link. Snap a halfshaft like a buddy did and you lose control.
Not good. The class of the field is the aluminum Kirkham but they are
pricey. Superformance is my leading choice at the moment. I've got the
bucks saved up and have a couple of 427 side-oiler strokers in hand but
I gotta sell the house and go someplace where I can get more garage space
before I take the plunge.

> I like the Cobra Daytona Coupe the best

Superformance and FFR both make those too.

Dan Jones

Shelbyman
Journeyman

Posts: 33
From: Huntington Beach
Registered: Nov 2001

posted 10-02-2003 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shelbyman        Reply w/Quote
Although there are a few top notch replicas on the market personally I would go with buying a used Superformance Cobra. There are about 15 guys in our club COCOA that have them and they ALL love them. They handle great and the fit and finish is very good. I'm sure like most cars of this nature you can buy them used for a discount on the construction dollar. Enjoy!!

george brown
Gearhead

Posts: 124
From: solomons MD
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 10-03-2003 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for george brown        Reply w/Quote
You should be aware that many insurance companies are no longer insuring Cobra replicas due to the number and nature of claims filed for these cars.

65Cobra
Journeyman

Posts: 13
From: Mesa, Arizona, USA
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 08-27-2004 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65Cobra        Reply w/Quote
It all depends on you, what you want, how much you want to spend and if you plan to build it yourself or have someone else do it for you. There are options for all the above and more.

As a Cobra owner I suggest you do some homework and visit some of these sites:

http://www.ffcobra.com

http://www.cobracountry.com/home2.html

http://www.backdraftracing.com/

http://www.uniquemotorcars.com/

As for insurance, GRUNDY insurance insured mine no questions asked for about $400 a year for $50,000 stated value.

Your friend,
"Doc"

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