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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 45913 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-27-2006 07:31 PM
My Mach is finally all one color. The body shop has it in blue tinted primer and boy does it look GOOD! It will now sit for 2-3 weeks to cure and then they get started on the block sanding. I'm very impressed with how nice a job they are doing. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL [This message has been edited by SteveLaRiviere (edited 01-27-2006).]
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Big D Gearhead Posts: 6076 From: WELLS, NEVADA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-27-2006 07:41 PM
Looks Great Steve.. That's EXCITING.. It won't be long now.. ------------------ Don 6T6 Fastback 331 STROKER, T-5 Metallic Royal Blue & Silver Candy Orange-Red Flames by McGrafix My Pics
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 21296 From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-27-2006 07:41 PM
WOW Steve! Thats just awesome!------------------ oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT! My Pics
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capri man Gearhead Posts: 7639 From: doerun, ga. Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-27-2006 07:42 PM
not very shiney!!! ------------------ mike r racing is real everything else is just a game. 81 capri-302-7.25 @93mph 1/8 1.54 60ft 50 % of the fun dragracing is meeting people who will give you the shirt off their back to wipe the grease off your hands. M&M member #839 http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/mike470/adel2.jpg
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 45913 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-27-2006 07:44 PM
I wish you could see it in person. I went round and round it looking for flaws. These guys are GOOD! ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 21296 From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-27-2006 07:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: I wish you could see it in person. I went round and round it looking for flaws. These guys are GOOD!
I'm sure it is, I'd hate to be the guy working on your car. You do great work and expect even better from others. ------------------ oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT! My Pics
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Ken Gearhead Posts: 4887 From: Prospect, Ct. M&M Member No. 31 MCA Member 49299 Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-27-2006 07:52 PM
That's looking good Steve !!! You searched long enough for a good body shop and it looks like you found it..... ------------------ i before e except in BUDWEISER !!! Ken 1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger Roller Cam - Duration 282'/282' @ 050 220'/220' lift 0.512 and much, MUCH MORE !!! My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page 1998 COBRA convertible - 18,000 factory original miles 2000 F150 4X4
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Fastback68 Gearhead Posts: 3946 From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines Registered: Jul 99
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posted 01-27-2006 07:56 PM
quote: I'm sure it is, I'd hate to be the guy working on your car. You do great work and expect even better from others.
Just the other day I met the guy here who handles all the top-end resto jobs in the Flips for the true and well-heeled collectors - money no object. I said I wish I could find just one customer like that so I could dump all the rest. He said something like, "It sounds great when they walk in the door, but two or three years later they're still moaning 'cos it's not absolutely perfect!" But I'm sure Steve's not like that Looks great Steve.
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IIGood Moderator Posts: 3633 From: Arnold, MD, USA Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-27-2006 08:03 PM
Lookin' good!But, pardon my ignorance, why use a primer the same color as what the colorcoats will be? Won't it be harder for them to tell where they've shot? I know it'll make the blue look more pure... ------------------ Frank S.----MCA Member 40390 '03 Mustang GT coupe '77 Ghia--"II Good"
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 45913 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-27-2006 08:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Fastymz: I'm sure it is, I'd hate to be the guy working on your car. You do great work and expect even better from others.
We're getting along great. He knows what I'm looking for so we're on the same page. The guy is even more anal than I am. All my "What about..." questions have been answered by the exact answers I wanted. Good people like this are tough to find and I consider myself very lucky. This was the shop I was looking for. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 21296 From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-27-2006 08:07 PM
Thats really great I know how long it took you to find a shop. Sounds like they earn their money which in it's self is hard to find today too.------------------ oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT! My Pics
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 45913 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-27-2006 08:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by IIGood: Lookin' good!But, pardon my ignorance, why use a primer the same color as what the colorcoats will be? Won't it be harder for them to tell where they've shot? I know it'll make the blue look more pure...
The new grades of paint are a lot more transparent than they used to be and tend to show through the tint of the primer in the final tint of the top coat. Using a complimentary color in the primer allows to have better coverage while using the least amount of paint. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 45913 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-27-2006 08:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Fastymz: Thats really great I know how long it took you to find a shop. Sounds like they earn their money which in it's self is hard to find today too.
Another thing about this shop is they don't do collision work, only custom paint and body work. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 21296 From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-27-2006 08:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: Another thing about this shop is they don't do collision work, only custom paint and body work.
Thats the best reason to pick them. I can't wait to see it painted. So do I get to drive it? ------------------ oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs HOOD HACKERS DELIGHT! My Pics
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 45913 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-27-2006 08:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Fastback68: "It sounds great when they walk in the door, but two or three years later they're still moaning 'cos it's not absolutely perfect!"
If he can't get it right in two or three years, how does he stay in business? ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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MLariviere Moderator Posts: 4120 From: Biddeford,Me.USA Registered: May 99
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posted 01-27-2006 08:35 PM
That just looks awesome! Money well spent. Was the radiator support painted? The panel alignment looks great.
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Fastback68 Gearhead Posts: 3946 From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines Registered: Jul 99
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posted 01-27-2006 08:43 PM
quote: If he can't get it right in two or three years, how does he stay in business?
Good question! These are customers restoring things like 1930s Hispano Suizas. They give him a budget to scour the world looking for spare parts, and bitch when he comes up with a slightly pitted part from a 38 and tries to fix it on a 37. Meanwhile, they pay him storage, so there's a trickle of income. He has some meat 'n' potatoes customers as well though. He says he thinks that some of these difficult customers really only bring their cars to him because they don't want to store them in their garage, so they dump them on him for a few years!
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mellowyellow Gearhead Posts: 7377 From: So. Fl. Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-27-2006 08:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: I wish you could see it in person. I went round and round it looking for flaws. These guys are GOOD!
What gets me is the panel fitment-it is flawless. SOMEONE knows what the **** they are doing! I remember the knotty look of the RR 1/4 and how it looks now. Noticed how good the engine cmpt looks=very thorough in their prep. Like the idea of the longer cure outs that they're doing in the process. Makes for a laser straight body when it's finished! Noticed that you got the shaker cutout. For what you're paying, you're getting it back in the rise in value that they're adding to your Mach!! Two thumbs up!!
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 45913 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-27-2006 08:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by mellowyellow: Noticed how good the engine cmpt looks=very thorough in their prep.
Thank you! That's actually Mike's and my work. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL [This message has been edited by SteveLaRiviere (edited 01-27-2006).]
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exlocal Gearhead Posts: 933 From: hacienda hts., CA, USA Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 01-27-2006 10:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Fastback68: He says he thinks that some of these difficult customers really only bring their cars to him because they don't want to store them in their garage, so they dump them on him for a few years!
The shop that changed my clutch has a 65 coupe which was brought in by a customer to have the 289 rebuilt. The motor looks like a stock rebuild. The customer couldn't come up with the money to pay for the motor work, so told the shop owner that he can keep the motor and that he would tow the body out. Wrong, the shop owner put a lien on the car and is now trying to sell it. There's also a 69 Charger (basket case) out in the back parking lot next to the 65 Stang coupe. That customer is paying him space rent until he comes up with the money for the restoration to start? ------------------ reliving youth
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Dreamcometrue Gearhead Posts: 598 From: New-Brunswick,Canada Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 01-27-2006 11:24 PM
Very nice work!! Happy for you, Steve. Rino
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mellowyellow Gearhead Posts: 7377 From: So. Fl. Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-27-2006 11:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: Thank you! That's actually Mike's and my work.
Figured that, I meant that they did a good job of covering your work. BTW, what did you use for paint in the bay. It looks damn good. Nice detail. Looks like the 70 has a Bendix Booster. Just got through detailing mine, which is a Midland.
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Dave Gibson Moderator Posts: 10148 From: Norfolk, Virginia, USA M&M#166 MCA#47921 Registered: Aug 99
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posted 01-28-2006 10:50 AM
AWESOME!!! These guys do know what they are doing. As Mellow pointed out, the alignment of the body panels is perfect. Glad to see that they smoothed out as much of the sheet metal as possible and used very little filler. Can't wait to see your Mach 1 completed and on the road Steve. That will be one HUGE smile for you. Dave & Terri ------------------ '65 Mustang Fastback '66 Mustang Coupe '02 Explorer XLT Common sense isn't common anymore.
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3291 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 01-28-2006 03:06 PM
Awesome Steve.Like Pete asked, what paint was used in the engine bay. Everything looks awesome. How are they protecting the detail work already completed from overspray?
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 45913 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-29-2006 03:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by mellowyellow: Figured that, I meant that they did a good job of covering your work. BTW, what did you use for paint in the bay. It looks damn good. Nice detail. Looks like the 70 has a Bendix Booster. Just got through detailing mine, which is a Midland.
The primer for the engine compartment is Duplicolor self etching primer, we then applied Duplicolor semigloss black which came out looking too splotchy so we then gave it a top coat of Rustoleum semigloss. They protected it by bagging and masking and they seemed to have done a good job.
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70 Pony Gearhead Posts: 1895 From: West Chester, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 01-30-2006 11:55 AM
STEVE>>>>I can't stop looking !!!! You are doing it sooo RIGHT !!!!! It is gorgeous... I am BLUE with envy...D)------------------ EDDIE D Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof Arrest Me Red 13.1 @ 107 ON STREET TIRES (Maple Grove) '66 Coupe Project, "Mustang Marauder. '05 Mercury Montego AWD "If I knew I would have lived this long, I would have taken better care of myself !" "U.S. Marines; First to go. Last to know !"
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3291 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 01-30-2006 12:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: we then gave it a top coat of Rustoleum semigloss.
Are you saying that was shot with spray bombs!!! That came out quite nicely if that is the case. Or did you buy the paint by the quart/gal and shoot with it with a spray gun?
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Dave Gibson Moderator Posts: 10148 From: Norfolk, Virginia, USA M&M#166 MCA#47921 Registered: Aug 99
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posted 01-30-2006 03:20 PM
Sig Sam, When we did the engine compartment in Terri's car, we also used the duplicolor rattle cans. Found out quickly that you have to shake the can every few minutes or it will come out splotchy as Steve described. You have looked at the results of that project in person. Dave & Terri ------------------ '65 Mustang Fastback '66 Mustang Coupe '02 Explorer XLT Common sense isn't common anymore.
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hwyman3 Gearhead Posts: 1660 From: Southern Maryland, USA Registered: Jul 2004
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posted 01-30-2006 03:52 PM
Steve, the car looks awesome so far! I can't wait to see it when it's all finished!------------------ Greg W. M&M #3962 MCA #52100 2002 Laser Red GT Coupe The Highwayman 3 1991 F-150 XLT 4x2 5.0 Ole Faithful Southern Maryland Mustang Club http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/hwyman3.html
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3291 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 01-30-2006 06:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dave Gibson: Sig Sam, When we did the engine compartment in Terri's car, we also used the duplicolor rattle cans. Found out quickly that you have to shake the can every few minutes or it will come out splotchy as Steve described. You have looked at the results of that project in person. Dave & Terri
Hmm, I don't remember your car coming out splotchy either. I seem to recall it looking pretty darn good too.
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sigtauenus Gearhead Posts: 3291 From: Va Beach Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 01-30-2006 06:39 PM
Hey Steve, BTW, what kind of prep work did you do in that engine bay? That metal looks too smooth to have been blasted. Did you do a lot of chemical stripping by hand or just sand the old paint smooth and go from there?
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 45913 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-30-2006 07:09 PM
Yes, it was all spray bombs. Believe it or not, the pros I've asked about it, including Len Stuart from Autobodyshop.com all said not to fear the spray bomb.Prep was stripping with paint stripper, then wire wheel, bearhair on a 90 degree diegrinder, lacquer thinner, PPG cleaner, PPG metal prep, then the self etching primer, splotchy topcoat of Duplicolor, then Rustoleum. My brother Mike gets all the credit for that work, I cleaned and rebuilt and painted all the components and unboltable parts. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 XL
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