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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
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posted 01-25-2006 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you ever want to hunt down your car's previous owner and smack him in the head?

My cars are old and obviously have been worked on by some real goobers. My latest example are the two pairs of taillights from my two '70s. After cleaning I find that they are virtually in mint condition EXCEPT that both sets are covered in overspray. Geez, what does it take, 4 minutes to tape up a pair of taillight, some newspaper, and some masking tape? They are coming clean, but it's slow going.

The world has too many doofuses! {doofusi ? }

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Scott H
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posted 01-25-2006 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott H   Click Here to Email Scott H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was one of the more interesting things about having a resto shop...you got to see all the really weird things previous owners and/or mechanics have done to these poor cars.
Road signs for floors, chicken wire and expanding foam for body work, wiring splices done with masking tape, the list goes on and on.
Maybe we should crank up this thread and get some Tales from the Front.

What weird, stupid, or unsafe stuff have you found while working on your mustang?

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Fastback68
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From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
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posted 01-25-2006 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, you are truly pernickity (Good word!) Things could have been a gazillion times worse, as you know!
My personal hate at the moment is PO's who chopped those panels that hold the radio in 71-3 Stangs so they could fit their Pioneer radions instead. Out of six or so that I have, only one is intact and it says Grande, so I'm really torn whether to put that in a Mach 1!

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trashline
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From: Levittown, Pa
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posted 01-25-2006 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol this could get good. kinda like what did you find in junk cars. i love wrong size nuts and bolts. Then you have togo get new stuff that fits correctly. Or on the rocker panels the screw for the covers over sized /c they put big screws in there.

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66 mustang 200ci 3 speed
Holley weber two barrel, msd 6A, 3.5 gears, 3.03 v8 three speed trans.

68 Fairlane 289 w/ auto
rusting away motor is going in the mustang

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Scott H
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From: Chicago area
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posted 01-25-2006 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott H   Click Here to Email Scott H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Simon,
wish you were closer, I could probably get you one for free, but the shipping is a killer!
I've got a close friend who still runs a small mustang resto shop, he should have at least one spare hanging around.

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Dave Gibson
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From: Norfolk, Virginia, USA M&M#166 MCA#47921
Registered: Aug 99

posted 01-25-2006 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve,
Sounds familiar as far as POs are concerned. Someone had tried to do a restoration on Terri's '66, at least interior wise. Amazing how many wrong bolts and screws we found once we took the interior of her car apart. Looked like a PO had used what ever was handy in his/her junk jar. Oh well. NPD loves us and thats good.

Have you tried to use Citrus Strip on the over spray areas yet??? Good stuff and it was originally designed to remove paint from cars. Worked wonders in the engine compartment of Terri's Stang. Just a suggestion.

Dave & Terri

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65darkhorse
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posted 01-25-2006 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65darkhorse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Scott H:
Road signs for floors?


ha! If I hadnt seen it with my own eyes, I would have thought something like that was a massive case of BS. A guy I know had an MG Midget restored. They had the thing on a rotisserie, and all you can make out in pictures is the front and rear of the car - so bad was the reflection from all the street signs screwed into place!!
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Originally posted by Fastback68:
Steve, you are truly pernickity

hmm, wouldnt that be persnickety ? Steve, I think Simon's saying your anal!

edit: apologies to Simon -persnickety is an alteration of pernickety.

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DidgeyTrucker
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From: Greenbrier, TN USA
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posted 01-25-2006 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DidgeyTrucker   Click Here to Email DidgeyTrucker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend had bought a '71 fastback to resell and let me have the 429/C6 (not original, nor a CJ) that was in it. The motor mounts on the block weren't correct. The tabs didn't line up with the holes on the brackets on the frame. So..... they made some pieces to link the holes very similar to the shackles on rear leaf springs.

These pieces were made from 3/8 plexiglass!

I guess they worked because the motor was blown. It would not have been put into the car in the condition it was in. We found two spun rod bearings and a twisted (and broken) oil pump drive shaft. The big end of the rods got so hot they warped. The bolts are no longer parallel. You have to drive the bolts out to get the caps off.

Years ago my cousin looked at a '67 Fairlane. Someone had literally stuffed a 429 in the car. The motor mounts didn't work, of course, so they dropped the motor until the exhaust manifolds wedged into place between the shock towers.

Tracy

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68 Coop
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From: Mesquite, NV. 89027 M&M# 4256
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posted 01-25-2006 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop   Click Here to Email 68 Coop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My whole car seems like it was just thrown together to sell. I can put pressure on the drivers fender, and it will squeak from being loose. I paid a shop to fix the qtr glass to roll up and down, NOT. I can't wait till I start to get real serious with this car, who knows what's in store.

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MLariviere
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From: Biddeford,Me.USA
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posted 01-25-2006 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My car had all the trim glued on with silicone.

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Fastback68
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From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99

posted 01-25-2006 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
hmm, wouldnt that be persnickety ? Steve, I think Simon's saying your anal!

No no no no no, that's you I'm saying Steve is, erm, errrr, that his sets his standards very high! ( I was a politician in another life!)

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lawless
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posted 01-25-2006 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lawless   Click Here to Email lawless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
every crevice of my car is full of spray foam "installed" by the previous owner

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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
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posted 01-26-2006 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastback68:
[QUOTE]hmm, wouldnt that be persnickety ? Steve, I think Simon's saying your anal!


No no no no no, that's you I'm saying Steve is, erm, errrr, that his sets his standards very high! ( I was a politician in another life!)
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LOL

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Fastymz
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posted 01-26-2006 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes my car had it's share of "weird, stupid, or unsafe stuff" from the PO. I'm just added my own as I go.
I know for sure one day if I ever sell my 65.The next owner will be here telling you guys all the "weird, stupid, or unsafe stuff" the PO (me) did to the poor car.

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Buster
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posted 01-26-2006 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES!

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TOPDowNMUSTANG
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posted 01-26-2006 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TOPDowNMUSTANG   Click Here to Email TOPDowNMUSTANG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The PO of my 73 was my dad so it wasn't too bad. The biggest thing was he had the engine replaced at some point. The shop put a used 71 (D1--) engine in it. Instead of migrating the 73 emission control stuff the the new engine, they simply hacked the wiring harness and made it work for the 71 engine. I still can't find a replacement harness.

I have three of those radio bezels. One is intact and the other two are cut.

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Thud
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posted 01-26-2006 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strangest I've found is still the fishing lure in the middle AC register and the reefer pipe under the carpet in the '70.

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427Fastback
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posted 01-26-2006 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 427Fastback   Click Here to Email 427Fastback     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the previous owners (circa 68-74)decided it would be easier to change the heater hoses if he just butchered a hole in the firewall and reached in...

Cory

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68 Fastback 427MR 4 spd.Deluxe interior,8000 tach,140 speedo,am/fm,tilt.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-26-2006 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course I'm anal, how do you restore a car otherwise? What do you call restoring, filling a balloon with paint and tossing it at the car?

Say, I may have one of your former cars...

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Fastymz
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posted 01-26-2006 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Of course I'm anal, how do you restore a car otherwise? What do you call restoring, filling a balloon with paint and tossing it at the car?

Say, I may have one of your former cars...


I've got to the point I don't even feel bad about cutting up or drilling new holes in my car. Is that a bad thing?

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johnmustang
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posted 01-26-2006 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
, filling a balloon with paint and tossing it at the car?




My brothers and I did that when we were kids, we would fill balloons with house paint and throw them at 18 wheelers and buses. We never threw them at cars because they could stop fast and probably chase us down. We would have deserved to get a $hit kick`n if we got caught but, we never did and that was lucky for us. It was fun at the time.

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87 TAURUS WAGON
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kwazykat
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posted 01-27-2006 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kwazykat   Click Here to Email kwazykat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this was all above my eye level so it took me a while to discover [silly me]:

my ranchero's PO drilled a hole in the center of the roof so a CB antennae could be fished down through the center of the headliner where he had opened a "little" tear in the liner.... sheeeeesh!!

so .... i went to the drugstore and bought a crutch tip [you know the rubber no-skid jobbies??] plunked it in and plugged the hole in the roof..... teeheheheeeheee

now SPUNKY has an outie-belly button on her noggin!!

it is no wonder then, when i bought her, that the PO casually asked if i had a garage to keep her in.... [he did not go on to say she needed one to keep the rain out of her brain.... geeeesh!!]


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Mike65
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posted 01-27-2006 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike65   Click Here to Email Mike65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate PO's who find it necessary to hack up wiring harness's to install aftermarket electronics, or who hack up the small radio opening of the metal dash on a 65/66 Stang. . I never did understand the idiot who stsrted the roadsign use for floor repair, had that on Robin's 65 Fastback. Theres more I just cant think of them right now as I just woke up.

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kwazykat
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posted 01-27-2006 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kwazykat   Click Here to Email kwazykat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh!!! dang!!! totally forgot about the PO of COUGRRRL [the 69 cat-vertible].....

first off, he blew up the 351W and put a tired 289 in her....with that heavy dang FMX tranny he didnt feel the need to change..... then he took the entire heater plenum out [to lose weight at the drag strip where he had blown up the 351...].... he sealed up the heater core access in the firewall with an old illinois license tag... heh heh.....

and he totally removed ALL the air conditioning pieces and parts.... [ditto on the losing weight stuff... jesus.... it is just a street car for god's sake.... with a heavy as$ed FMX for crying out loud....... grrrrrrrrrr....]

and mostly important, i bought it for a song because he said he could not get it to fire and .... after we had it towed to the house, we discovered that baby fired right up with the distributor cap properly attached......

people make me crazy... they have a nice old muscle car and think they are automatically supposed to be all bad-as$ed ..... not
wanting to admit they have standard low-grade stuff [no matter how you look at it] ..... it is NOT a high performance vehicle just because you toss off a little weight ....... it is not a high performance vehicle just because you take it to the drag strip now and then...... it is not a high performance vehicle simply because it is a classic car ....... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ......

sometimes i am amazed.... the guy i bought her from served our country and was stationed at fort bragg NC ..... someone i respect and admire ..... and still he did not know enough to understand this vert was a grocery getter...... poor guy.....

you would not believe the bs we had to go thru to reinstate the heater and the AC.... lord knows it was annoying as all get out!!!


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83j20
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posted 02-08-2006 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 83j20   Click Here to Email 83j20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was lucky with my car. All POs (3) had taken pretty good care of the car.

I tracked down just one PO and drove the car a few hundred miles to show him it was still going and that it was being taken care of. He told me what he knew of the car's history.

Seems it had been originally bought by a couple (he didn't know their name) who had owned it for many years and rarely drove it. They become old enough that they decided to use it as a trade-in for what they figured would be their last new car. The salesman who sold them their new car bought it from the dealership and owned it for many years and rarely drove it. He died of cancer and his brother kept it in memory of his brother. He too rarely drove it and as he got older he decide it was time to move it along (divorced his wife and didn't want her to get it and since he really didn't drive it much....). He sold it to a sportscar dealer his daughter knew and I bought it from them. That really makes it 4 POs but I just count the people.

Had 38k on it. Only real problems are the cheap repaint someone gave it and two little sheetmetal screws at the ends of the chrome trim over the windshield.

I have done some cosmetic restoration on it. New carpet, engine paint, engine bay clean up and repaint, trunk mats, etc. Drove it to IL to let him see it and boy was he surprised to see it again! He's in poor enough health now that he couldn't go for a ride but was just amazed that i brought it to show him.

The look of delight on his face was priceless!

So, no complaints about POs here.

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