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Moneymaker
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posted 03-05-2005 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you all seen it?
Some poor guy is chained to it.

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posted 03-05-2005 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIGood   Click Here to Email IIGood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know the second junked car is a Pinto Wagon...don't know what the first car is that the couple's "attached" to.

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posted 03-05-2005 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pinto, Mustang II....same difference!

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Alex Denysenko
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 03-05-2005 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the first car is a Chevette.

You know why they didn't use Toyotas? They couldn't find one that lasted that long.

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posted 03-05-2005 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Pinto, Mustang II....same difference!


LOL Now thats bad, funny but wrong.

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posted 03-06-2005 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Toronado3800     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly Steve! Out of all the Accords and Camrys ever sold soo few are still on the road. I don't know where these quality ratings come from. Consumer Reports/JB Power have to be bought and paid for.

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posted 03-06-2005 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everytime I see a news reel of a car bombing from Iraq, it seems as if a Toyomota is involved.
I guess that's where they are all going.
Good riddance!

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Alex Denysenko
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posted 03-06-2005 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 89_coupe   Click Here to Email 89_coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Pinto, Mustang II....same difference!


NOT EVEN CLOSE!!! Pinto was around much longer before the overweight Pinto GT (Mustang II) came out (I like them both). That's like calling a '65 mustang fastback just a "'61 Falcon" or the '93 GT called a '78 Fairmont. Shame on you Alex! Though Pinto GTs (Mustang IIs) and Pintos are worthless, they still were good enough to start the Mustang II/Pinto front suspension on "everything" ~street rods, hot rods, race cars, street cars, Chevy, Dodge...anything and everything~ craze that continues going strong after decades. The same can't be said for any other Ford chassis ever made. Cheap, simple, and effective

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What is this FE fixation for which there seems to be no real cure? Something about wanting to spend twice as much money to go half as fast for one third the number of passes between explosions and not being able to find parts to fix it when it does explode.

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posted 03-06-2005 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missing link   Click Here to Email missing link     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa hold on. Yea the mustang ii's share parts with the pinto but so do most other models share with other models. Classic mustang/falcon for example. The mustang ii has taken alot of bashing and we the ones that love them have taken the same for keeping them. They kept the name (MUSTANG) alive through the hard times. The ii has its own place in the mustang history, instead of some corporate head nixxing the line.
Sorry to say haven't seen the toyota commercial yet but still waiting. Just don't like it when someone bashes the one thing that kept the line alive. Had to vent on this one.
Agree with Scoop, that was wrong, flat out wrong.
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89_coupe
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posted 03-06-2005 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 89_coupe   Click Here to Email 89_coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn't intentionally bashing the Mustang IIs, I was just being a bit sarcastic in a playful way. As you can see from my signiture, I like the totally unpopular and worthless junk Ford produced otherwise my cars would not be unique and wouldn't turn heads or get attention when I drive them. I like the obscure and if everybody had only '65-'71 Mustangs and '67-'71 Camaros this hobby would be awefully boring. The Mustang II was a great attempt by Ford and the right decision for if it wasn't there wouldn't have been soo many made and sold. I love Cobras and King Cobras but not with the stock drivetrains but that is easily changed

Yes, that commercial pisses me off every time I see it. Pinto wagons were very good cars and tough as hell considering they were soo cheap to buy when new and especailly used. At least there are still quite a few on the road. I have seen several this winter up in Rochester suprisingly

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posted 03-06-2005 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I was!

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posted 03-06-2005 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Alex got the hot button response he was looking for with his original 'accidental on purpose' misidentification.

I will defend the Mustang II also. You have to take the time they were developed in context. At the time all the liberal mouthpieces were screaming the sky was falling and we'd be totally out of petroleum by the turn of the century and the market panicked. If it wasn't a small car, it wasn't going to sell, period. Iacocca cranked up the Ford machine and had the designers come up with the MII. It was a huge seller, which a lot of people forget these days.

It is too bad people put the MII down. It kept the name alive, and it wasn't a bad car if you gave it a fair chance. They were small, but a V8 could have been stuck in them, and the build quality wasn't that bad, considering the time. Although you don't see a lot of them around these days, try finding a '76 Toyota or Datsun/Nissan sometime.

Plus, they are little, so you early guys ought to love 'em!

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posted 03-06-2005 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My favorite Mustang II has always been the Mork One cruising wagon in purple.

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posted 03-06-2005 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My favorite was Quicksilver, that 460 Pro Streeter built I think by Gapp and Roush.

Pam would love to have a white with blue Cobra II.

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posted 03-06-2005 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks   Click Here to Email GTRocks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
They were small, but a V8 could have been stuck in them, and the build quality wasn't that bad, considering the time.

Plus, they are little, so you early guys ought to love 'em!


Actually, the first stang I ever drove was a II. Had a 302 in it from the factory. It was a nice little car, but didn't compare to my '66, so it lost the bidding!

We do love 'em...'specially their front suspensions!

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posted 03-07-2005 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 89_coupe   Click Here to Email 89_coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
My favorite was Quicksilver, that 460 Pro Streeter built I think by Gapp and Roush.

Pam would love to have a white with blue Cobra II.


What about the Mustang II Animal Jim built back in the day? That was bad ass street racer too :O

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posted 03-07-2005 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not familiar with that one, what was it?

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posted 03-08-2005 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just borrowing a post from Joe...

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Originally posted by Joe Grippo:
Old School Pro Stock...




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posted 03-08-2005 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 89_coupe   Click Here to Email 89_coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I'm not familiar with that one, what was it?


It was a long time ago I saw it in a magazine but I think it was in the early '80s that I saw it. It was either grey or silver and it was very plain jane with just the big meats on the rear showing it was pretty serious and it was powered by a stroked 460 and heavily worked iron CJ heads. It was his street car and I forgot what kind of ETs it supposedly ran but it was either mid/low 9s or high 8s. It was a Ford magazine maybe Super Ford or something similar? I searched on the web for Animal Jims Mustang II but I couldn't find anything other than his actual race cars.

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