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70boss302
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From: Jeffersonville, NY USA
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posted 03-04-2005 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70boss302   Click Here to Email 70boss302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was trying hard to build my own Dunkin Donut shoppe in my home town but there are no opportunities left. I know that there are many simialr type coffee/doughnut/bagel shoppes out there and luckily not in this area so there is a good chance that I can obtain a franchise. Naturally a Starbucks is out too.
What I need is your help in finding a good alternative to a DD. Thanks in advance.

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mustangs68
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posted 03-04-2005 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When your talkin donuts there's only one

http://www.krispykreme.com/

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kwazykat
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posted 03-04-2005 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kwazykat   Click Here to Email kwazykat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we have a VERY cool coffee shop in town that has the standard board of coffee and fancy-coffee selections ....HOWEVER what sets them APART from the rest of the shops around this area is they ONLY serve fancy gourmet desserts in their shop..... no dried out organic granola typical muffin worn-out cinnamon bun stuff there!!!!

we like to go there just for the dessert and have never gotten coffee [so far] ..... most times we get our selections "to go"..... so to us it is a dessert shop but to others it is likely known as a coffee shop!!

.... it is a neat little place and they keep a wide selection of cheesecakes, pies,layer cakes, pastries, cookies and ok.... i guess they do have those great big huge honker muffins..... but anyways ..... it is original it is a mom and pop shop and we would buy from them anyday over a starbucks!

maybe you can consider doing something outside of a franchise and infuse some personality into it! that would be fun!

kk

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Dave Gibson
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posted 03-04-2005 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are dealing with a small town, go the route that KK has suggested. Don't follow the beaten path, but make it your own, with a touch of class. Can't go wrong that way. Just my $.02.

Dave & Terri

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lyle29464
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posted 03-04-2005 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lyle29464   Click Here to Email lyle29464     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most franchises succeed. Most other startups fail.

If you cant get a franchise borrow heavy from the polices and procedures of the top one.

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70boss302
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posted 03-04-2005 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70boss302   Click Here to Email 70boss302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyle29464:
Most franchises succeed. Most other startups fail.

If you cant get a franchise borrow heavy from the polices and procedures of the top one.



Exactly why I want a franchise. The system is proven to work. Yes we can 'wing it' and do it our way but this is business and in business success is everything. ;wink

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adragon8u
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posted 03-04-2005 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about this?
http://www.brueggers.com/

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trashline
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posted 03-04-2005 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trashline   Click Here to Email trashline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know if youhave a WAWA but i think everyone lieks there coffee and the wawa . i visit one at least once a week. and i have a feeling that most other people do. besides there ice tea is amazing.

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johnmustang
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posted 03-04-2005 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim Hortons

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70boss302
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posted 03-05-2005 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70boss302   Click Here to Email 70boss302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, something along the lines of a Tim Hortons, any more ideas?

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exlocal
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posted 03-05-2005 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for exlocal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out the customers in your area and the traffic patterns. Younger people tend to buy donuts and coffee. Older farts like me have to stay away from these places.

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mustangs68
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posted 03-05-2005 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Old Farts like you..LOL..
Hey I spend way too much time eatting donuts

Sam

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70boss302
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posted 03-05-2005 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70boss302   Click Here to Email 70boss302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For over 2 years I have studied the demagraphics and I have concluded that the area would support such a venture. Now that Dunkin Donuts is no longer an option, I need to find a suitable replacement before that opportunity is lost too! Just like in the old saying 'when you snooze, you lose'.

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Toronado3800
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posted 03-06-2005 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Toronado3800     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boss was telling me one of the two big donut corporations was declaring bankruptcy. We ASSUMED it was probably a borrowing/corporate takeover type of problem since both seem to sell tons of donuts.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 03-06-2005 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Krispy Kreme has had a lot of problems lately with questionable accounting, that's probably what your boss was referring to when he said that.

Tim Horton's seems like a nice operation, also Subway has great advertising and good products. Blimpie's are starting to pop up around here, they have really good sandwiches.

Just out of curiosity, what did you rule out Starbucks? There's also Gloria Jean's and Green Mountain Coffee as far as coffee franchises go.

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posted 03-06-2005 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a recent news item on Krispy Kreme:

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Krispy Kreme faces another federal probe

February 24, 2005 09:38:22 (ET)


CHICAGO (MarketWatch) - Krispy Kreme Doughnuts Inc. is facing yet another federal investigation of its accounting.

Winston-Salem, N.C.-based maker of the original hot glazed doughnut said Thursday that it has been put on notice that the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York is looking at the company.

Shares of Krispy Kreme (KKD, Trade) sat at $5.75 at the market's open.

The federal agency told the company it will talk to certain current and former officers and employees of the company. Though the agency didn't detail what it was investigating, the company believes it relates to the Securities and Exchange Commission's in-depth review of how the company has accounted for the acquisition of certain franchised Krispy Kreme businesses, particularly those that may have been owned by families and friends of officers.

Krispy Kreme is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy after disclosing earlier this month that it is facing a cash crunch. Also this month, the company layed off a number of people and said it would take at least $600,000 in charges to cover the costs.

Last month, Krispy Kreme posted its first fourth-quarter loss since going public; forced out its chief executive Scott Livengood; and hired turnaround specialist Stephen Cooper to take the helm.

Since the SEC began its probe last year, the company has lost most of its market capitalization. Since May, shares of Krispy Kreme have plunged nearly $30.

For late-breaking market news you can't afford to miss, go to http://CBS.MarketWatch.com

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