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Fastymz
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posted 10-09-2003 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm getting the money together to do my first engine build. I'm real excited about it. But I keep wondering should I do it. Or take the motor money and sell the car. Take all the money and buy another car in better shape then mine.
I know many of you have been past this point already. And I just wanted some opinions. Things my car still needs.Most of the front end replaced. New front drums,MC,a nine inch would be nice.
Weather seals all around.Rear qtr panel and tail light section.One front fender, new front seats. Some rust fixed in trunk floor. And a lot of minor things. I think I could get about $2500-$3500 for my car now. What do you think it's worth?
And then go looking for a 65-66 in better shape and with goodies already on it for about $5000-$6000. If I do the motor I'll never get what I have into the car back. Which I could live with. But if I do the motor I'll have commit to keeping the car for the long haul.

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johnmustang
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posted 10-09-2003 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the way you have described your car and what it needs and what you are looking for, I would sell your car and start looking for something that is already more complete that meets your needs (fastback, fastback, fastback, fastback ). It also sounds to me from reading your post that you know what you want to do (sell your car) and have made up your mind, but may be looking for conformation from some other people. I look forward to getting a ride in your new car or the one you have now when I come to reno for the show.

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Fastymz
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posted 10-09-2003 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's funny John because I was thinking of keeping it. And was looking for objective opinions on the issue. Rather then my bias opinion.From the years of blood sweat and tears.
For sure either way we'll go for a ride.

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indyphil
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posted 10-09-2003 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SCOOP,
take your time over this one. I feel the same way about my car sometimes. The thing is if you do buy a car for 5-6000 bucks you will struggle to find one that has all the motor mods and a nice body. What you will end up bidding on is either:

a straight car with no rust, nice driver with a 289 engine - no "balls"

or:

Your car (not so "straight") with a beast of a motor in it.

You need to decide what you want to be driving, rather than what route to take to get there. I own a nice driver with a straight body and nice wheels/brakes/seals etc... Its not a show winner but its worth about 7-8000 dollars. Frankly I often think of it as boring to drive. It only runs high 15s in the 1/4 and after a year I have started to take the classic lines and good looks for granted. I yearn for more displacement and lust after new heads and headers. I want a car that runs low 14s or high 13s. I bought the car because I wanted to get into doing engine modifications myself. Thats just me personally but Im an engine guy first and a car guy second.

Try to remember why you bought the car you own, and think about if that still applies. Then think about selling it and if it will upset you to sell it. Will you enjoy owning a different mustang? Sometimes I think about trading up to a fastback, and then I think about all the work I have put in to my car and how I like it so much the way it is.

I just spend a bunch of money on wheels and I know I can transfer them to any other 67-69 mustang, the same can be said for any small block based engine buildup. I think you are excited about your engine build.

My advice would be to build your engine, go get some cheap thrills and get into the 12s or 13s at the track. Then sometime later you might save up a few more dollars and you can trade cars and keep your dream engine for the next car. This has the added benefit of allowing you to buy a really clean car that has a bad engine in it that may be on its last legs. You can pick one up cheap knowing you have the perfect engine for it at home in the garage.

Just an idea. I dont know which way your are leaning but thats the way im leaning.

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ccode67
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posted 10-09-2003 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at it this way, you already know what your car needs, the next one may look better at first but will probably need all the same things done to it within a short time. Spend some $$ on the one you have IF, it is truly the type car you want, if you will always be looking at other types of cars and wishing for them do the swap now before spending more $$.

If you decide to sell your current car, spend the money on a paint job and you'll get lots more for it. Personally, I believe your car to be worth 3500++, with some fresh paint, $5000, at least thats the market here in Georgia.

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kid vishus
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posted 10-09-2003 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
If I do the motor I'll never get what I have into the car back.

No matter what, you will never get back out of almost any car what you have invested. Thats just the way it works. If you spent $15k on restoring a car to perfection, you might get $12 out of it if you tried to sell it.

You need to do what you feel is best. If you were thinking of keeping it, then you should really think about that. You know what the car has had done to it, you know what it needs. If you sold it, you never really know what you are getting. The owner might claim it has had X amount of work done on it, but it's often hard to prove if it really has or not. You could end up paying $6k for a car that in the long run really isn't any better than what you have now.

It's your car, and your money, so you need to do what is going to make you happy.

Wow, I don't think I really answered anything. Maybe I should go into politics.

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grandestang
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posted 10-09-2003 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grandestang   Click Here to Email grandestang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think what all of you are forgetting is there may be some sentimental value in the car for Scoop. I know I would never sell my car, not because its anything special, but because it, well first off has been in the family since 1970 right off the showroom floor, but much more importantly it is MY car that I have put money and time into.
Scoop, I think you should keep your car and build it up like you have been doing. Imagine the sense of accomplishment you will feel when the car is done (is it ever really "done" though? ). Anyways coupes are cool look at all the fast ones around here...

Paul

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Dave Gibson
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posted 10-09-2003 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop,
You sound like a did a couple of years ago when I told Terri that I wanted a fastback. She said fine as long as I should all three coupes first and the fastback I plan to buy has a/c in it. No problem. Was I attached to the coupes? Yes. Did I invest time, money and effort into them? Yes. Did I want a fastback that bad? Yes.
So I sold all three coupes and started shopping for a fastback. Found two that met my criteria in Florida. A '66 GT fastback and a '65 fastback. Called my dad to get him to look at the '65 since it was only 45 minutes from him and Terri and I went to look at the '66 GT.
Dad called before we got to look at the GT and said to buy the '65. It had already had all the body work and paint done. The interior is original and the motor had a few mods: cam, Holley 4V, headers, shift kit, and mom was impressed. Three years later mom still wants to buy our fastback.
I'm currently in process of gathering all the needed parts to detail the engine compartment and make a few mods: new edelbrock intake, edelbrock carb, new exhasut system, and some rear gears. It's going to take some time to get everything together to do the jobs that I have planned and the money needed. But in the end, it will be worth it to me.
In other words, it's your Mustang. Do what you want to do with it. If you are happy with what needs to be done to it and you want to build your engine, then keep it. If you really want a different Mustang to build, then do it. Do what is best for you. Also, Credit Unions are a great source for auto loans and the rates are awesome right now.

Dave & Terri

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mustangs68
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posted 10-09-2003 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SCOOP go with your Gut feelings.

I could never get antwhere close to what I put into mine nor will I ever sell it,even though I dive it rarely.

Hell it's in the Will,I can't sell it or the Granddaughter will never speak to me again and she only 7.

Do what you feel best,but if you want I can help spend your money

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GTRocks
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posted 10-09-2003 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks   Click Here to Email GTRocks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First I will caveat this by saying I'm a sentimental type. My '66 is plain. C code, no big deal. But they'll be prying the keys out of my cold dead hand. It was my first car, and it needs paint in a bad way. I have invested money in it over the years, and I'll never get it back. But that's just it...I don't want it back. The suspension is awesome now (did that about 3 years ago). I put rims on it from Carlisle 2 years ago. They're not styled steel wheels either. Outlaw II's. I put a 4v carb on it and a Performer intake (Carlisle!). It doesn't turn many heads anymore, but I absolutely love it. I smile from ear to ear everytime I drive it. That's what it's all about for me.

If you sell it, will it eat at you? I know it would me.

You could get $4k for yours, and add the motor money. You'll buy one for $6000 and it'll either be a solid performer, or a straight body. You probably won't get both for much under $10k. And then what do you have? An unknown. Valve springs could snap the next time you drive it. You just never know. Pick the car you like (and I think you already did), and work it to completion. It may take you the rest of your life. But that's what the hobby is all about. We're never done. Never. And as soon as you think you are done, something will break. You have to enjoy what you have.

GerogeBrown was selling his '67 Shelby a few years ago. That was one gorgeous car. I highly considered selling my '66, and taking a loan to get it. Then I decided that his car was too SWEEEEET for me to drive. I realized then that I don't want a show car. I want one that I can drive and that if something were to happen to it, I'd be upset, but not devastated. I love my little C code, and I'll work on it forever!

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65darkhorse
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posted 10-09-2003 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65darkhorse   Click Here to Email 65darkhorse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Build it and be happy.

As Ralph Waldo Emerson said ... "Trust your instinct to the end, though you can render no reason."

and it hasn't failed me yet.

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Fastymz
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posted 10-09-2003 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 65darkhorse:
Build it and be happy.

As Ralph Waldo Emerson said ... "Trust your instinct to the end, though you can render no reason."

and it hasn't failed me yet.


Now thats a great saying to live by.
Yes this car has some sentimental value to me.It was my first Ford hotrod and my first car after 20 plus years without one.I love the 65 coupe and I'd just get another one.I'm more of a coupe guy.


Thanks guys all good advice.Well every one but Rob.

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posted 10-09-2003 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know where your at Scoop !!! I've been tossing around in my mind (I have the wifes Ok too) selling my 65 and my 95GT (with only 32000 miles) and getting myself an 03 Cobra ?!?!? Boy, talk about being confused..........

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posted 10-09-2003 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys with '65s always want to get rid of them...

My Mustangs are staying!

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posted 10-09-2003 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
You guys with '65s always want to get rid of them...

My Mustangs are staying!


I,m keeping mine and looking for another one

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Fastymz
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posted 10-09-2003 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ken:
I know where your at Scoop !!! I've been tossing around in my mind (I have the wifes Ok too) selling my 65 and my 95GT (with only 32000 miles) and getting myself an 03 Cobra ?!?!? Boy, talk about being confused..........


DO IT, I'd love to have a new super charged Cobra.AWESOME CAR one the best Mustangs yet. My wife said I could get one too.If I can get $30000 for my 65.Maybe I should put it on EBAY. Get one here on the west coast.So you can take for a ride in it.What color are you getting.

Steve I was waiting for you to say something. I'm just trying to trade up in cars.Not moving out of the model.

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posted 10-09-2003 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
What color are you getting.

Calm down Scoop.....I only said I was tossing it around in my mind !!! I'm trying to think if I should wait for the new model Mustangs that I saw in Carlisle this summer.

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posted 10-09-2003 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop, that?s a VERY good question, tough too! You bring up some very good points... like throwing good money for bad. In other words, would you get a bigger bang for the buck selling your call and applying the money you have and buy something that?s ready to rock and roll.

Well, I've seen guys mess around with boats like that down here in Florida. Get a boat and sink allot of money in it making it the way that would like, rather then spending less money buying one that was the way they liked it in the first place.

I knew a guy that had a 1968 Stang that was a Shelby clone. Man, it was really nice. He was selling it for $15,000 and I was at a point that I couldn't spend that kinda money...grrrrr! That same car today could go for $20K easy. Not that I was looking for an investment, it was just a really great looking car and I would have sold mine to buy that if I had had the time.

There are some good deals out there, you just need to be in the right place at the right time. Although, it?s always nice knowing that you?ve built it and know that?s its going to last because you have taken the time and money to do it right.

I don?t envy your situation. However, the peace of mind you get when you do it your self is very rewarding.

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posted 10-09-2003 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N266fords   Click Here to Email N266fords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron all I can say is my car is no show car (my wifes red one is closer to that) But i would never let mine go i love to drive it I have alot of memories and It deserves more money and time then i can give it right now. but I have a dream. I will make my dream a reality. Maybe you can do some simple things to yours and keep it alive in your heart. Just my .02 Bruce

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Scoop,
In June 1972 I got rid of my Boss 302, I regret it today. Of course I picked up my 65 K code a week later, I still have it.

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posted 10-10-2003 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ken:
Calm down Scoop.....I only said I was tossing it around in my mind !!! I'm trying to think if I should wait for the new model Mustangs that I saw in Carlisle this summer.



Right after I wrote that a guy comes to buy a bed.After the sell I look at his new super charged Cobra.All black I start talking to him about it.He says come out and let show what I've done to it. The first thing I notice is the roll cage cover to match the upolstery.He runs under drive pullys and cold air system.Long BBK headers a 2.5 full exhaust system.A lap with a HiPo chip.A hidden shift light.Four frame braces,man this was bad.He started it up at idle it sounds stone stock.He said tired four system before he found that would sound this way.He changed out the rear gears for 3.73 gears.He said the car flat out flys.MAN did I want that car. All I was thinking about I wish Ken was here to this one.Who ever did the work did a great job.Everything was real clean and looked factory installed.We talked for about 1/2hour.Which didn't make the boss happy.Ken ALL BLACK thats the way to go.I don't if this was telling the truth but he said the rear wheel power is now 425hp.The was also a 6 speed.He said he gets no traction but has not had anything keep up with him yet.

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posted 10-10-2003 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1_ZoNiE   Click Here to Email 1_ZoNiE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop,

I'll make this to the point. Selling your car would be like cutting off an extension of yourself. *hint-hint* Your car is a part of you. Build the engine then fix/build/restore/whatever the rest.

That's all!

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posted 10-10-2003 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buster thats what i'm talking about.I don;t have alot of money for my hobbie.So when I get a chance tospend alittle.I have to make sure I'm making the best choice.I have been into cars for along time.I know that deals come along all the time.You just have to be in the right place at the right time. The only thing that makes me want to keep my car is the work I've done to it. And like you and others have said I know whats good and bad about it already. I also know that for $5000-$6000 I've seen some awesome cars. But being I want another 65-66 coupe thats not stock.I might as well keep mine.And keep on the track I'm on.I hope it's never done,I wanted a project car.Thats why I got this one.I also wanted a street/strip looking and sounding car. And lastly I went out tonight and looking my car over. I need to keep it and finish what I started. For right or wrong thats what I'm doing.
Thanks for your time.

Good point Jim,what would every one call me if I got ride of my car.
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posted 10-10-2003 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1_ZoNiE   Click Here to Email 1_ZoNiE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Good point Jim,what would every one call me if I got ride of my car.

Ummmm, well that is not exactly what I meant. It's really how the car relates (only word I can come up with) to you. Not you to the car.

Long story short: I have a friend who once told me that I could never sell my car because it was a very *ahem* "personal" part of me (a guy thing in more ways than one). That by selling it it would be like cutting off a very personal part from me. Know something, he may be right! (now before anybody goes and jumps down my throat)>Yes, I know that it is only metal, paint and tires. But, by golly it's "my" metal, paint and tires.

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posted 10-10-2003 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1_ZoNiE:
Ummmm, well that is not exactly what I meant. It's really how the car relates (only word I can come up with) to you. Not you to the car.

Know something, he may be right! (now before anybody goes and jumps down my throat)>Yes, I know that it is only metal, paint and tires. But, by golly it's "my" metal, paint and tires.



I knew what you were talking about.
But JUST METAL,PAINT AND TIRES. Some one get a rope.
No way not to me.Everyone that knows me knows thats MY car. My son told me best this morning.He said,"Dad your right you get another car and make it cool too.But this one is you,not just a car,it's a part of you at least to me it is." Now after that how can I ever sell it.

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posted 10-10-2003 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop,
If you sold your Stang, we would have to call you Scoopless. Have fun with it and build that 351W the way you want it. Enjoy the ride.

Dave & Terri

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I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!
We have enough youth, how about a fountain of smart?
Common sense is not so common anymore.

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posted 10-10-2003 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have never kept a Mustang past 3 years on the road and that was my 65 GT Cv. See it all the time as I sold it to a friend-and he loves it! What's not to. Point: now have a 66 cv with no 1/4's, etc., Just a solid floor, etc. When the 1/4's, tailight panel, gutter, etc. go on will have to stare at my Ol' GT 'cause that's my yardstick for measurements. To me the fun is in the building, drive them for a spell and then move on! Sorta like wives! LOL! Seriously, if you are attached to your 65, then keep it. Why not do the trunk floors, and whatever, yourself and enjoy. Think that you like the statement your car makes and that's cool. Go from there and refine what you have. Think also, that you may like the primer look. That's cool, and best of all, you could do a Nip and Tuck on it, a panel at a time, and keep it on the road. Drive while you make it sharper. Nothing wrong with coupes! Ask Alex! After putting in an 8" trac loc, why do you need a 9"? Put that money into some cosmetics. New seat covers and dash pad, etc. would be money better spent. Opinion.

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posted 10-10-2003 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mellowyellow:
To me the fun is in the building, drive them for a spell and then move on! Sorta like wives! LOL! Seriously, if you are attached to your 65, then keep it. Why not do the trunk floors, and whatever, yourself and enjoy. Think that you like the statement your car makes and that's cool. Go from there and refine what you have. Think also, that you may like the primer look. That's cool, and best of all, you could do a Nip and Tuck on it, a panel at a time, and keep it on the road. Drive while you make it sharper. Nothing wrong with coupes! Ask Alex! After putting in an 8" trac loc, why do you need a 9"? Put that money into some cosmetics. New seat covers and dash pad, etc. would be money better spent. Opinion.



Pete, Some reason it's not hard for me to believe that you'd have an opinion.
I have only had one and still love her,thats after 15+ years. I agree before I do any other major upgrades. I'll do a lot of little ones. The rear end will wait until it's needed. New seats and body are next after the motor. Pete like yourself the fun for me is the project and enjoying the work. Part of enjoying it for me is cruising and racing it too. For others it's shows and for others it's just doing the work. I do like the look of my car. I don't no why any one else wouldn't like it too. But that's my bias opinion coming out again.

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posted 10-10-2003 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron, how bad is the rust on your car? Is it only cosmetics your car needs?

I'm a believer in sticking with the devil you know. If your car is solid structurely, why not just keep it and spiff it up?

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posted 10-10-2003 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by N266fords:
Ron all I can say is my car is no show car (my wifes red one is closer to that) But i would never let mine go i love to drive it I have alot of memories and It deserves more money and time then i can give it right now. but I have a dream. I will make my dream a reality. Maybe you can do some simple things to yours and keep it alive in your heart. Just my .02 Bruce


Bruce you never know.I'm a real hard guy to get along with.I really like to do my own thing.And I only talk and do things that have to do with cars. I don;t have many friend mostly because I'm so busy with family and work.

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posted 10-10-2003 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Scoop, you do what you want. but when I first got my car, the wife thought it was ugly with a capitol U. said it looked like someone blew their nose on the car port. Just last night she was looking at the latest picture of it on my desk top and commenting on how nice it looks. I've only had the car 8 months and it still has a ways to go, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone else drive around in my hard work and take the credit just because they had enough money to buy one ready to go. Besides that, ther's something to be said for knowing every little nook and cranny of the car you drive. heck! i'll bet there's a little bit of your sweat on every nook and cranny of that car.

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posted 10-12-2003 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MLariviere   Click Here to Email MLariviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron,I think you should keep the car. You know what you have. That's a great place to be.

Buying another car is exciting,but is also a risk. You have to take the previous owner's word on it's condition.

Work with what you have,be proud of it,and enjoy it. I can relate with you. I want a 70 GT in the worst way,but I can't imagine selling this one,after all the work I've done. Don't be ashamed of doing it on a budget. You can always tell the cars that are put together and loved by their owners,from the ones that are "store bought". Why not start saving,and buy another one later on?

Just remember this: You can sell it easily,but you'll most likely never get it back. You also don't lose any value until you hand it over.

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posted 10-13-2003 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The old guy across the street from me asked me to show him one nut or bolt I had not taken apart on my car, guess what, there aren't many that haven't been turned by me. Keep your car Scoop, it's an extension of yourself.

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posted 10-13-2003 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itlbrnmoff   Click Here to Email itlbrnmoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And last, but not least...
Keep your car Scoop. You know you like wrenching on it, and you will feel a sense of accomplishment and pride in knowing it's your creation.
Even though the one I keep stored in my tiny garage is not an antique, I still want to see it when I'm done painting and trying to make it something that others might take notice of.
When you're on the street and see a bada$$ car, if it gives you a thrill, just think how many thrills others will get when they see you sittin' at a light sounding like all business. Then, you get the thrill of knowing that you did it yourself grinning ear to ear. There is sentimental value to a car that you've had for a long time. That's the only reason I haven't sold mine yet, and the fact that mine is just not worth very much. I might've exaggerated the small amount of money that I've spent on this car so far. From an earlier post I made, it sounds like under $3000. But in reality, all the little things add up and it could be more like $4000. Another testimonial that you never get back the amount of money you spend on a car. Another good reason to keep yours and don't look back.
If you're not sure of your ability to put an engine together from scratch, buy a 351 crate shortblock and bolt on some good heads, you could probably do that for around $4000.
All the cosmetic stuff, bodywork, paint, etc...is stuff you will do eventually along the way.
I recently heard a radio commercial about the local Maaco paint shop offering 2 hours of free bodywork and a paint job for $199.00? But with what quality of paint?
I started thinking, since my bodywork is pretty complete, why not get a quick colorshot? The next thing that came to mind was...NOT!!
My car is going to be what I make it, no matter how long it takes.

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