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Topic: stupid, novice question
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honeyburst
Gearhead Posts: 846
From: Nashville, TN, USA
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 11-22-2006 02:18 PM
 
I've been reading a LOT....listening a LOT....this (my 65 4spd) is the first manual trans I've had in a long time.......so, I have a question.......could someone please explain:
1. what exactly IS "heel-toe" work ?
2. what purpose does it serve ?
3. how is it done ? ------------------
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ga289stocker
Gearhead Posts: 129
From: Sugar Hill, Ga
Registered: May 2006
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posted 11-22-2006 02:36 PM
Unless your going to be road racing the car I would not even worry about it. However heel/toe is a driving, well more racing techinque for shifting. Usaully involves taking your right foot and angling it so the toe touces the gas pedal and the heel is over the brake pedal(or what every variation of that works best for you) Then when say down shifting and braking at the same time you can modulate the gas and brake w/ one foot. I have a 65 Stang 4sp and would not think of trying to use this techinque as the pedal spacing is pretty far apart. In contrast i have a 1991 Honda
daily driver that it's not to hard to do heel/toe but the question would be what's the point? None for normal everyday driving. It's also used to blip the throttle while down shifting somewhat to get rpm's to match so you don't get that sudden jerky motion from a higher gear to a lower one and is exactly why races do this when going into a turn so there is a smooth transition that won't cause unwanted jerking that could put you in the wall on a race track...that's my . In my car I do blip the throttle when downshifting but not braking at the same time, just cause I like to. That's .02 anyway. I'm sure other's will chim in....------------------
1965 2+2
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-22-2006 02:38 PM
No questions are ever stupid on M&M!
Just some of the answers are.  Heel and toe work refers to a driving style whereas you push the gas pedal with your toe on your right foot and work the brakes with the heel of the same foot leaving your left foot to work the clutch so you can up and down shift.
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Alex Denysenko
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honeyburst
Gearhead Posts: 846
From: Nashville, TN, USA
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 11-22-2006 03:22 PM
sounds like that would take a lot of practice.....I hear the grinding gears now *lol*.........
I do agree though, that the pedal spacing on our 4 speeds is pretty far apart.....
hmmmmmmm..........could be something fun to work with on and old country road though....
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-22-2006 03:47 PM
Although thought of primarily in road racing applications, it was/is still common practice to implement the technique in drag racing also.
Before Line locks were invented (or in my case one could be afforded) the method is/was used to hold a stick car on the starting line while reving up the engine so as not to roll through the staging beams.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05
First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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ga289stocker
Gearhead Posts: 129
From: Sugar Hill, Ga
Registered: May 2006
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posted 11-22-2006 04:34 PM
Good point Alex....I didn't even think to try that at the stripe...Darn my size 9 1/2's.....
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Mark Ugrich
Gearhead Posts: 351
From: Waukesha, Wisconsin,U.S.A.
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 11-22-2006 11:42 PM
A friend of mine worked for an Indy car team some time ago. It was common practice to modify the pedal height and spacing to make it easier for the driver to heel/toe the car....even with size 9 1/2's. 
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68 Coop
Gearhead Posts: 5847
From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 11-22-2006 11:49 PM
My accelerator pedal sits almost exactly flush with my brake pedal. ------------------
William
M&M# 4256
MCA# 64831 68 Coupe
289
C4
3:55's/Trac-Lok
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