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Topic: 331 build (Cam?)
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 2556
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 06-27-2005 01:30 PM
   
OK my crank and rotating assembly is finally going together. I have put the crank in and torqued the caps although I still need to remove the rear cap to put a 2 piece seal in. I need to put the rods/pistons in.
I have checked endplay and bearing clearance and everything is good. So once I have myself a block with pistons,crank,rods etc... Whats the next step? Should I decide which cam to buy and get it? then get the timing chain kit? I still have not decided on the cam. I would love a roller cam - which according to most folks will make a little more power and retain a little nicer idle. But the cost seems extreme. So now im thinking to get this going a little sooner I might go for a cheaper 270S comp cam. If I want a roller later then I could do that later on but im getting itchy to build the motor and dont want to wait extra months just to afford another 10hp from a roller cam. BTW its a 72 block (non roller) What do you guys think? I have an oil pump, thinking of a Canton 7 quart T pan and pickup as well, but surely the oil pump and pan would come later? I guess there is no specific order that I need to do this. BTW I bought the Tom Monroe book (rebuilding small block fords) and its a great reference for the details. ------------------
'68 coupe, '66 289 C code
engine, edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, dual exhaust, flowtech headers <p>http://www.geocities.com/ottouk_77/68mustang.htm
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 780
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-27-2005 01:38 PM
Don't go too much further until you get that cam! You'll want to check piston to valve clearance now in case you have to take those pistons out for more notching!Been there, DOING that!  ------------------
'68 mustang 351 clevor- 10.92@124
'67 Stang, 351W -11.18@118
'69 351C Torino-14.90@100
'78 Pickup 351W-15.56@88
'79 Pickup 460 ET=??
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mizry
Journeyman Posts: 63
From: ca
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 06-28-2005 01:11 AM
well you probably have a decent piston since its a stroker, are the heads big enough to handle the extra cubes???? I would suggest a custom solid flat cam. they cost under 300 but will give way more power than a magnum shelf cam.
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 2556
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 06-28-2005 08:28 AM
I dont even have the heads yet but Im planning on AFR185s or similar.Which brings me to another point. Should I even start building given that it will be so long before I get the parts together? I am using assembly grease which should protect things but I dont want the fact that its sitting (covered up by a garbage bag) to cause problems. I put a piston on a rod last night, those darn spirolocks were a pain. Wow. Why dont they use regular spring clips? ------------------
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6701
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-28-2005 08:33 AM
sounds like these guys might be able to help!! 
https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/010427.html------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-302-7.25 @93mph 1/8
1.54 60ft 50 % of the fun dragracing is meeting people who will give you the shirt off their back to wipe the grease off your hands.
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blackford
Journeyman Posts: 36
From: Corona, Ca
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 06-29-2005 12:30 PM
I hear good things about the 270S cam. I have a 282S in a 331 and I love it. Assuming you have stroker pistons with the deep valve reliefs, you'll have plenty of clearance with a 270S and even a 282S. Even Comp says in their instructions that checking valve to piston clearance is not necessary until you go to a 294S.I used a Cloyes timing chain...a good product. ------------------
Tracy Blackford
'65 "Black" ford FB, 331 with H beam 289 rods, KB322s, fully prepped 351w heads, 282S cam, C-4 auto, 3.50 9" posi. Many Suspension and handling mods. 4.5 year restomod project completed in May '04. 313 RWHP @ 6300.
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 2556
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 06-29-2005 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by capri man:
sounds like these guys might be able to help!!
https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/010427.html
Yeah Mike I was thinking of asking them about their cam specs since they said it was a SFT, but it seems a little rude or presumptious to ask a man his cam specs... Is that right or am I being too reserved?
Perhaps Ill shoot him an email.
Perhaps he might read this post and shoot me an email?
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mizry
Journeyman Posts: 63
From: ca
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 07-03-2005 03:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by indyphil:
Yeah Mike I was thinking of asking them about their cam specs since they said it was a SFT, but it seems a little rude or presumptious to ask a man his cam specs...Is that right or am I being too reserved?
Perhaps Ill shoot him an email.
Perhaps he might read this post and shoot me an email?
good heads and probably a decent solid flat cam. what ever cam works for his combo might not work for you if you have differnt heads. His car doesnt sound like daily driver cruiser but more like a streetable race car.
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6701
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 07-03-2005 04:14 PM
phil, if it would make any difference, i got a set of ford roller lifters that you are welcome to.
i bought them a couple of years ago from someone on this site, i cant remember who. all i remember is that he was in the airforce in ca!!! LOL i never even unpacked them except to look at a couple of them.
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mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-302-7.25 @93mph 1/8
1.54 60ft 50 % of the fun dragracing is meeting people who will give you the shirt off their back to wipe the grease off your hands.
M&M member #839 http://perfectrun.com/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/images/smiles/icon_5usaribbon.gif
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