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Topic: Fords seem slow at Taladega
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26513
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-01-2005 02:00 PM
   
Don't they seem exceptionally slow to you too? 
Aero problem?------------------
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393Bird
Gearhead Posts: 134
From: Clarksville Tn.
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 05-01-2005 02:34 PM
They just do not seem to like the restricter plates. Matt Kenseth seems to be running with the big dogs OK. Speaking of restrictor plates, was it 65 or 66 that NASCAR first used them to tame down the Ford 427?I miss the old days when you could look at the car and tell what kind it was, and they had the CI on the hoods. ------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 05-01-2005 03:48 PM
I did not think that they began using restrictor plates until the mid 80's.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 267
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-01-2005 04:36 PM
i used to love watching nascar back in the 70 even early 80s now i couldnt care less, cars all look a like and miss the chevy ford thing that was always going on, how bout those fords man they were the days, Bill Elliott running 212 mph with that ford t bird, sucks now, dont care for it no more, without #3 they lost something.
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393Bird
Gearhead Posts: 134
From: Clarksville Tn.
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 05-01-2005 04:39 PM
As far as I can remember, they were first used in the late 60s or very early 70s when Ford brought out the 427s, and ran away from the others. That was during my Vietnam time, so it is a little blured.It is all a new race now after that wreck.!
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 5822
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 05-01-2005 08:17 PM
I thought they first used restrictor plates back in the "Aero Wars" days, maybe 1969. Seems to me that's why some cars started using smallblocks since the big blocks had to run a small carb restrictor.
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Dave_C
Gearhead Posts: 994
From: Gadsden, Al
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 05-01-2005 11:27 PM
I don't know about the early days as far as restrictor plates, but the "modern" restrictor plate era started in 1988.That year at the spring Talledega race Bill Elliot set the still standing qualifying record of 212+. In the race two days later (I was there) Bobby Allison blew a tire at over 200 mph in the tri oval. The car went in the air and did a vertical barrel roll along the catch fence. The fence came down and the heavy cables laced through the fence were the only thing that kept the car out of the stands. It would have killed scores of fans. Soon after this wreck was when they decided on restrictor plates to slow them down. David Cole ------------------
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Stephen & Horace Johnson
Gearhead Posts: 198
From: Gadsden, AL
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 05-02-2005 12:04 AM
Dave C is right, that was right after the accident that they made the restrictor plate rule. Another reason was to slow down those FORDS..lol------------------
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393Bird
Gearhead Posts: 134
From: Clarksville Tn.
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 05-02-2005 08:00 AM
I found this:
http://www.speedwaymedia.com/Articles/04/122604Madding.asp
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cracing
Gearhead Posts: 370
From: Saltillo Miss. USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 05-02-2005 06:59 PM
without #3 they lost something.[/B][/QUOTE]
Nah they didnt, they still have Harvick, Gordon, & $hithead Jr. that will wreck every one they cant pass just like $hithead sr, did.
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-02-2005 09:46 PM
I didn't think they used them before the 200 MPH stuff in the mid to late 80's.
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Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
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Lightning Fast Fords
Gearhead Posts: 144
From: Charlotte , N.C. USA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 05-02-2005 11:40 PM
Gang...Restrictor Plates did come into use prior to the 80's aftermath of Bobby Allison's Cork Screwing Tornado down the catch fence at Talladega.Ford itself or GM never got dinged with it with the 427 or the 429 Boss...but Dodge/Plymouth sure did after Ford and GM switched to Small Blocks. The 426 Hemi had to be restricted to remain eligible until Chrysler pulled out of Nascar completely
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2499
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-03-2005 11:33 AM
I guess the Hemi had to use a smaller carb instead of a restrictor plate.------------------
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