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Topic: Boss 302 Stroker Look-alike
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1553
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
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posted 04-19-2005 11:33 PM
   
I have a 351W 2 bolt MotorSport Sportsman block ��3.00�� mains�� in the 1968 Mustang that has a 9.486�� deck height that I would like to cut down to 9.200�� and make it a 4 bolt main block, run a Cleveland Intake manifold in order to make it look more like a Boss 302. I might have brought this up in the past, however, I��ve got a good memory.... but it is a tad short. What I��m looking to do is make a tall block Boss 302 look alike. My plan is to build a 400 cid ��Boss 302 looking engine�� with a ��351W�� 9.200�� deck height. Most Cheby guys would never know the difference between the two.... Hell, most can��t tell the difference between a 302 & 351W. Some might remember the machine shop difficultly I had with my 1969 block, that I now have back in my possession  . My thoughts are to run the 69 block while I build the Boss 302 look alike engine. This is something I��ve always wanted to do, ever since the late 70��s. I��m looking to run low 10��s or high 9��s on the engine with a 3000lb 1968 Mustang. I have a C4 w/5500 stall converter and a multitude of 9�� rear end gears to choose from. My questions are: 1.) What 9.200 351C intake is best suited for this application. one that would look like some kinda Boss intake and work well?
2.) Can the Sportsman block ��351N�� be safely be cut down to 9.200��? I��ve read that it��s ok.
3.) Pro��s and/or Con��s cutting the block down to 9.200��.
4.) Is using bearing spacers ok, in order to use 2.75�� bearings & crank? Or would a 3.00�� main crank be ok in the 7500-rpm range.
5.) What crank would you recommend? I think I��m leaning towards the Blue Thunder cylinder heads, I don��t think I can afford the Yates heads at this point, unless they are uesed. However, I would like to use shaft rockers so I can use the MotorSport or stock Boss 302 valve covers, most likely Boss 302 valve covers. Any and all input will be greatly appreciated.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26811
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-20-2005 10:37 AM
I'll work on a answer a bit later in the day Dusty.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1553
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
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posted 04-23-2005 02:09 PM
Thanks Alex.
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jhss2289
Journeyman Posts: 39
From: Pensacola, Fl. USA
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted 04-24-2005 12:09 PM
I have a 9.2 Ford Racing block 4 bolt mains
E3zm, roller cam bearings, bushed lifter bores,2.75 mains, ready to go at .060, $1200.
[email protected]. Jessie, Pensacola
1-850-484-7525
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DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead Posts: 1539
From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 04-24-2005 03:57 PM
A Boss 302 intake has the thermostat housing in the manifold just like a 351 Windsor manifold. The Cleveland manifold has no thermostat housing. Are you going to drill the heads for water outlets or does the sportsman block have a thermostat provision.B&A used to make a hybrid manifold that fit Cleveland heads on a 351W block. The made 2V and 4V head versions. Tracy
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26811
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-24-2005 04:10 PM
Somebody bought out B&A and is producing those intakes.
That would solve all of your problems Buster.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/30220/------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05
First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead Posts: 1539
From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 04-24-2005 04:36 PM
I thought I had heard that a while back.And I'm not sure you can mill .280 off the deck of a block. Tracy
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1553
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
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posted 04-24-2005 10:36 PM
Jessie, what is the max bore for that block and what��s the Ford MotorSport part number? I'm not sure which block it is..... Has the engine been run since it's been bored to .060"? I found a set of heads and intake for a 9.200�� block on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7969104695
This is a perfect head intake setup for what I��m looking for. I have stuff that I can sell to compensate for buying the items I need... it��s all in the timing. I��m in Orlando and not to far from you, therefore, I might make a trip up there to check it out.
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1553
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
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posted 04-24-2005 11:36 PM
What is the chamber size of the E3ZM 6049 C302B head?.... anyone?[This message has been edited by Buster (edited 04-25-2005).]
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1553
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
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posted 04-25-2005 10:58 PM
I'm so pumped on this combo! I hope I can buy these head for this project....
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