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Topic: Harmonic balancer.
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Hans olsson
Gearhead Posts: 670
From: Sweden
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 04-14-2005 04:52 PM
   
Which one is the best? The worst?
It must be SFI approved and for a 351C with external balance.Hans ------------------
- VIN 1F05M139343
- 71 Mach 1 Ram-Air
- 351C 4V 285 HP
- F-G/Stock Aut
- Stockers are way cool!
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26513
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-14-2005 09:09 PM
Several are good.
BHJ
Powerbond
FRPP
Innovators WestI don't like
TCI
ATI
Pro Form
Engine Works ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05
First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Hans olsson
Gearhead Posts: 670
From: Sweden
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 04-15-2005 03:48 AM
Thank you! ------------------
- VIN 1F05M139343
- 71 Mach 1 Ram-Air
- 351C 4V 285 HP
- F-G/Stock Aut
- Stockers are way cool!
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BLstangin
Gearhead Posts: 802
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 04-15-2005 09:58 AM
Anyone use the professional products powerforce dampners? Just bought one for my stroker bbc build, just wondering what you guys thought of them in general?------------------
1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 306 with 650 dp holley, Weiand Stealth intake, headers, mme custom roller cam, harland sharp roller rockers, kb pistons, 10.3:1 compression ratio, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, lakewood bellhousing, 4-speed toploader, and 3.50 9" locker rear.
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans
http://www.supermotors.org/registry/vehicles/detail.php?id=7794
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1098
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 04-15-2005 01:12 PM
Yeah. I bought one of those POS dampners. I don't have anything good to say about it. Live and learn.------------------
Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 408C 4V, 10.50 127 MPH
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BLstangin
Gearhead Posts: 802
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 04-15-2005 03:28 PM
What was wrong with the dampner? Was it not balanced right or something else? Functionality or just the way it's made?------------------
1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 306 with 650 dp holley, Weiand Stealth intake, headers, mme custom roller cam, harland sharp roller rockers, kb pistons, 10.3:1 compression ratio, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, lakewood bellhousing, 4-speed toploader, and 3.50 9" locker rear.
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans
http://www.supermotors.org/registry/vehicles/detail.php?id=7794
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scperf
Journeyman Posts: 23
From: Houston, Ohio USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 04-15-2005 06:03 PM
I just bought an ATI Pro damper for my Cleveland. I am pleased with its construction. I just started assembly, so I havn't run it yet. I was told by the machine shop that the most popular stuff was ATI and Fluidamper. Mine worked well when they balanced the rotating assembly.I would like to hear if Alex has had any issues with the ATI. I have a lot of money in this engine and would like to head off any potential problems before they start. ------------------
Mark Nishwitz
Sin City Performance
Houston, Ohio
`66 Mustang 351C
OSCA Mild Street
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ted
Journeyman Posts: 70
From: Central Texas
Registered: May 2003
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posted 04-16-2005 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Several are good.
BHJ
Powerbond
FRPP
Innovators WestI don't like
TCI
ATI
Pro Form
Engine Works
Alex, I'm just curious. What is it you don't like about the ATI dampers? I've run them with good results so I'm just wondering what's turned you off on them. On my own "don't like" and "don't promote" lists, I include all the liquid filled dampers including Fluidamper. ------------------
Ted E.
Big inch Fords are plenty fast, but Y-Blocks's are fun when they run in the low 9.60's @ 135mph.
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1098
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 04-16-2005 01:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BLstangin:
What was wrong with the dampner? Functionality or just the way it's made?
I think the spacer ring was made poorly and the pully wobbled. Also the aluminum beauty ring that is "riveted" on the front came off in no time. How safe is that for a "SFI" dampner? ------------------
Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 408C 4V, 10.50 127 MPH
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Hans olsson
Gearhead Posts: 670
From: Sweden
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 04-16-2005 04:11 PM
I have tried two myself,Fisher and CAT.
What is your opinion on those?
Hans
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- VIN 1F05M139343
- 71 Mach 1 Ram-Air
- 351C 4V 285 HP
- F-G/Stock Aut
- Stockers are way cool!
[This message has been edited by Hans olsson (edited 04-21-2005).]
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ted
Journeyman Posts: 70
From: Central Texas
Registered: May 2003
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posted 04-18-2005 08:16 PM
I've had excellent results with the Fisher dampers both on the dyno and on race cars. They are what I would consider a mechanical friction damper by design. I've got two of them on different engines and I do take them apart on a semi-regular basis (roughly every two years of hard use) and give them a fresh treatment of silicone grease and a general cleaning.I typically avoid anything made by CAT though including their dampers. Ted Eaton.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26513
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-18-2005 11:23 PM
What I don't like about the ATI product is the price for what you get.
I know exactly where the parts for their balancers come from and what they cost. 
They do not make them in house. They only assemble them.
The aluminum ones will wear out and egg shape the hub in 100 runs.
I won't use anything from CAT if I can avoid it.
Made in China.
I am not a fan of liquid filled balancers either.
To many temperature variables.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05
First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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Hans olsson
Gearhead Posts: 670
From: Sweden
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 04-19-2005 12:08 PM
I suspected that the CAT was made in China, but it was the only one we could get on a very short notice. What is the story behind CAT? Is it a US company that moved the manufacturing to China? I prefer to buy parts made in the US,but at the time there were no alternative(very short notice of a rule change).I wonder if we have a fluid filled damper??? Hans ------------------
- VIN 1F05M139343
- 71 Mach 1 Ram-Air
- 351C 4V 285 HP
- F-G/Stock Aut
- Stockers are way cool!
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RogueS
Journeyman Posts: 48
From: Wichita, KS, USA
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 04-19-2005 05:50 PM
Any thoughts on the TMD balancers?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26513
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-19-2005 06:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RogueS:
Any thoughts on the TMD balancers?
TMD? ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05
First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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RogueS
Journeyman Posts: 48
From: Wichita, KS, USA
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 04-19-2005 06:37 PM
The Mustang Depot ones seen on eBay. I think they might be Hawks brand, but it doesn't list that in the ad.
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