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Topic: Chassis Certification questions
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Strain Gang
Gearhead Posts: 250
From: Thor, Iowa
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 04-13-2005 10:48 PM
 
Can anyone enlighten me to how in depth they get into at these things? The guy we bought the Falcon said he built it to NHRA specs, but it is a few years old. Do they just worry about the chassis itself and not the safety items (belts, window net, ect.)? Also how much it costs and does it cost wether it passes or not? We fired the bad boy up tonight and now I am getting excited again!! The certification is in Earlville next weekend, so hope to see some of you there. Thanks, Steve.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 29200
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-13-2005 10:56 PM
Is there a SFI chassis inspection tag on the frame somewhere now guys?
Inspection is $140 and non refundable regardless of outcome.
Look in your rule book.
IHRA will accept a NHRA tag, but not visaversa.  ------------------
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Strain Gang
Gearhead Posts: 250
From: Thor, Iowa
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 04-13-2005 11:03 PM
Alex, there is no certification sticker anywhere. The guy never had it done, but we do want to. Thanks, Steve.
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Billy Mac
Gearhead Posts: 914
From: S.Ga
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 04-14-2005 08:28 AM
Chassis Cert, is just THAT.....Chassis.
For the most part....they are not interested in other aspects of the car...(but trust me...they still look at that stuff and will give ya the evil eye, at the very least, if the stuff is not up to snuff)They will be checking for tubing thickness, quality of welds....and if it is more than a "Sportsman" chassis, location of specific bars to meet "specs"......... Hope it passes. Good Luck!
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MattN
Journeyman Posts: 69
From: Mattoon, IL.
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 04-15-2005 10:26 PM
I was told by a guy that if a car does not pass certification, that it cannot be raced. It can not raced at all in any class, until it does pass. I have not looked at the rule book. Is this true?
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Strain Gang
Gearhead Posts: 250
From: Thor, Iowa
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 04-15-2005 11:52 PM
Not true. Chassis Certification is totally different than track tech. We know the car WILL pass any trach tech, we just want to know what ET limit is safe to run the car. If ours passes, I would say we should be able to go at least Sewer Gas or possibly Sewer Comp racing. It ita a full tube chassis with a 4 link and a funnycar cage. Its way overkill in my book. Accoording to the NHRA Rule book, the minimum tube diameters are 11/4, 11/2, and 15/8. EVERYTHING on our car is 13/4 diameter. But I cant find anywhere a place to check for the wall thickness. I guess we will find out next Saturday. Steve.
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 1889
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-16-2005 01:38 PM
If the chassis does not pass certifacation, it can not run quicker than 10.00ET or 135 mph. To be honest, if the roll cage material is undersize, technically, you can`t run quicker than 11.50ET, as the roll cage does not meet spec. The NHRA Tech inspector has a tube gauge for checking the OD, & they sonic check the tubing for thickness. If you have the car tested, & it fails, at least by a NHRA Tech man, I believe he is required to notify any local tracks, so you can`t run it until it meets spec. You may want to have it checked by an independent chassis shop, so if it doesn`t pass, you could keep this to yourself, & keep it slower than 10.00 in brackets or Super Street.------------------
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Butch Jennings
Gearhead Posts: 637
From: No. California
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 04-17-2005 01:50 PM
I got a buddy who had his car certified at a race at Sears Point quite a few years ago. When it failed they told him he couldn't run the car at all (at any ET) until it was certified legal. He started running the car at Sacramento only for a while until he could afford to do the cage over. One time at Sac one of the tech guys (who primarily works at Sears) remembered the car and when it didn't have a legal chassis sticker, he was banned from running at Sac too until the cage was legal. Not sure what the rulebook says about it, but it doesn't really matter when they give you the boot at the track. Sad thing was that the car had never run in the nines at that point, he just wanted to get certified so he was ok when he stepped it up. Ended up doing a bunch of street racing with it for a while. Butch [This message has been edited by Butch Jennings (edited 04-17-2005).]
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Strain Gang
Gearhead Posts: 250
From: Thor, Iowa
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 04-17-2005 09:33 PM
First off, Our car is not going to be running anywhere close to 9.99 or under. It will be a 10.50 to possibly 10.40 quarter mile car. It does not even need to be certified. But, if we want to sell the car down the road or decide to go faster, we know that we can. We are going over on Saturday to see if it will or not. I have seen ALOT of race cars that I would not drive because they are poorly built, but through track tech, they still are on the track. All we can do is go and see, if it dont, we will make it so it will. Thanks, Steve.
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