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Topic: Looking for Ideas for a Hood Scoop
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393Bird
Gearhead Posts: 150
From: Clarksville Tn.
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 04-06-2005 08:57 PM
   
I am trying to get my air intake system finished up. I made uo a enclosure for the carb, and have it sealed to ther hood OK, just need to do some more work on the inside rear of the hood. The other area that is giving me some trouble is I need to go to a taller filter, and do not have the room. I want to add a scoop wide enough that the filter can go up into the scoop some. To do this, considering the filter is 14 inches in dia, and the engine is not centered, I need a scoop from 18 to 22 inches wide, about 24 to 25 inches long, and about 2 inches high so it does not add to much to the cowls height.Here is the enclosure  Here is the hood with a 79 Mustang GT scoop mocked up on it. A little to close for comfort at the fronts with its 24 1/2 inch width.  With a 2 inch scoop, I will be able to use a decent filter, and add a K&N top filter. Any ideas. I would like to keep it in the 2 to 2 1/2 inch height max range. ------------------
1993 Tbird
393 stroker, 3500 RPM converter
http://members.tccoa.com/393bird/
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 20638
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-06-2005 09:11 PM
How tall is your filter now? and are you using a drop base now?
I know moroso makes an offset base that might center the filter for you. From Summit racing.
"Product Line: Moroso Offset Air Cleaners
Carburetor Quantity: Single
Base Style: Dropped
Shape: Round
Diameter (in): 14
Top Design: Moroso logo
Top Finish: Natural
Top Material: Aluminum
Filter Height (in): 4
Net Height From Carb Flange (in): 2 3/4
Base Finish: Natural
Base Material: Aluminum
Filter Color: White
Filter Material: Paper
Dropped Distance (in): 1 3/4
Wing Nut Included: No
Quantity: Sold individually.
Notes: Comes with one 1/4-20 and one 5/16-18 offset stud, and three 1/4-20 and three 5/16-18 hex nuts. High quality, high performance. Air Filter Assembly, Offset, 14 in. Diameter, Round, Aluminum, Natural, Moroso Logo, 4 in. Filter Height, Each Moroso's offset air cleaners are available in raised and dropped bottom designs, to fit your needs. These high performance air cleaners are finished in clear anodized aluminum, and come complete with 4 in. filter elements,"
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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs
65 coupe 351w C4 Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics [This message has been edited by Fastymz (edited 04-06-2005).] [This message has been edited by Fastymz (edited 04-06-2005).]
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393Bird
Gearhead Posts: 150
From: Clarksville Tn.
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 04-07-2005 12:12 PM
The enclosure has 2 1/2 inch drop base and the filter is 3 inches.  This leaves me with not enough room between the carb inlet and the filter top. I want to use a 4 inch filter to raise the top. but it is too close to the hood with out a scoop being added. To give room for the filter, the scoop needs to be 18 to 22 inches wide and 2 1/2 to 3 inches high to allow a 4 inch filter with a K&N top to fit.   The hood has a slight curve to it, so I will have to cut the profile of any scoop to follow the profile. ------------------
1993 Tbird
393 stroker, 3500 RPM converter
http://members.tccoa.com/393bird/ [This message has been edited by 393Bird (edited 04-07-2005).]
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393Bird
Gearhead Posts: 150
From: Clarksville Tn.
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 04-07-2005 08:08 PM
I may try a Boss 429 or Eliminator scoop from Crites. Fastmyz, what is the size of yours, and where did you get it? It is a little tall to go on my cowl hood, but may have to cut one down some. I think the Eliminator would be close with 2 inch at the front, if it will clear the center of the filter. Maybe the Boss trimed to 2 1/2 would do it. ------------------
1993 Tbird
393 stroker, 3500 RPM converter
http://members.tccoa.com/393bird/
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Dave_C
Gearhead Posts: 1046
From: Gadsden, Al
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 04-08-2005 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by 393Bird:
I may try a Boss 429 or Eliminator scoop from Crites.
I had a Boss 429 scoop from Crites on my 69. Really liked it. Here are some pics with a 4" tall K&N. The breather is the 13" Ford Racing unit. Used on top of a 383W with a Vic Jr intake, 1" open spacer and 950HP carb.   I *think* the scoop measured 27"X22"X 3.5" tall at the front. It was suppsoed to be an exact copy of Boss 429 sccop as far as size goes. David Cole ------------------
557 BBF Powered, alcohol injected rear engine dragster. 4.90 @ 143 1/8 mile. 1.09 60'. I've got to be crazy to drive this thing.
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 20638
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-08-2005 07:19 PM
http://www.up22.com/scoopw3.htm#PR-63------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe 351w C4 Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
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393Bird
Gearhead Posts: 150
From: Clarksville Tn.
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 04-10-2005 08:58 AM
Since this is going on a 3 inch cowl hood, I want to keep it as low as possible. I decided to go with the 2 inch high Eliminator scoop, and add a 1/2 inch spacer between the K Member and the body to lower the engine a 1/2 inch. ------------------
1993 Tbird
393 stroker, 3500 RPM converter
http://members.tccoa.com/393bird/
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DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead Posts: 1539
From: Greenbrier, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 04-10-2005 12:47 PM
Won't dropping the K-member also drop the lower control arm mounts? I'm not sure which car you're working on and the particulars of the front end construction. But lowering the lower control arm mounts could upset the front end geometry.Tracy
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393Bird
Gearhead Posts: 150
From: Clarksville Tn.
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 04-10-2005 08:52 PM
It is a 93 Thunderbird. The engine, steering rack and lower control arms are all mounted to the Kmember on this. The lower arms are fully adjustable to compensate for the slight change in caster it would cause.Hey, I see you are from Greenbriar. I went to school in Springfield, then spent 22 years seeing the world in Army. Settled in Clarksville. Still own some land is Springfield. Hav'nt been to Union Hill since the last big SS meet last Fall. Hope to be there next month with the Bird.
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1993 Tbird
393 stroker, 3500 RPM converter
http://members.tccoa.com/393bird/
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