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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-21-2005 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have one of these and from what I��ve read; it will not fit my 68 Mustang Coupe with a console and might required cutting of the tunnel. Has anyone had experiences with this shifter in a 68 Mustang with a SB Toploader? I see that it is pretty much a universal shifter but is it just the handle that is different than the Competition Plus shifter? I also see that the installation kits (linkages and stuff) have different numbers for the two shifters.

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Ed S.

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ukracer
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posted 03-21-2005 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ukracer   Click Here to Email ukracer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Hurst shifter on my '69 Mustang with toploader and had to cut the top off the shifter (where the stick bolts on) and welded a bracket to allow the stock stick to bolt on in the factory position. Without this, it would have meant cutting the side of the trans tunnel out which I did not want to do. The shifter box cost next to nothing (new at a swopmeet) so it was worth it to me to make it fit without cutting the car up. I am pretty sure there is a part number that duplicates the factory Hurst shifters which did fit without cutting. Good luck.
Cheers, Martin

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Hemikiller
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posted 03-21-2005 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemikiller   Click Here to Email Hemikiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Super Shifter mounts high on the tranny and will require you to butcher the floorpan to make it fit.

The Comp Plus mounts in the stock location and clears the floor and console. I recommed you go this route, as a C+ shifter is only $225 or so...

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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-21-2005 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The rods are different also I would imagine. Maybe I can find a trade or at my last resort a home for it on Ebay.

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Ed S.

68 S-code FB GT 4spd(now C6)/3.25 PS PDB
68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC Bla-Bla-Bla
99 F150 XLT Ext/cab, 4X4, 5.4L, 3L55

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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-21-2005 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the Hurst Comp + shifter for the Borg Warner the same as the toploader? It looks like the shifter itself is the same but the rods aren't. Can someone confirm this for me?

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Steve-UK
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posted 03-21-2005 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve-UK   Click Here to Email Steve-UK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ed

I have a Super Shifter fitted to my 66 Coupe, yes you do have to cut some sheet metal out. Hurst did tell me it was only minor sheet metal trimming, you decided.

But it is a great shifter, and I am glad I fitted it

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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-21-2005 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its hard to see in this pic but thats probably the shifter that was once in my fastback.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-22-2005 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see 391-3180 being a Competition Plus shifter for both toploader and the Borg Warner. Is this correct?

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-22-2005 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 68 S-code GT:
I see 391-3180 being a Competition Plus shifter for both toploader and the Borg Warner. Is this correct?

That is the shifter body only.
You still need the kit for installation and they are different for each trans type.

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posted 03-22-2005 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can then widen my search to look for one that someone thinks it fits a B&W only.

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posted 03-22-2005 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 68 S-code GT:
I can then widen my search to look for one that someone thinks it fits a B&W only.

What are you trying to accomplish????

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Alex Denysenko
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posted 03-22-2005 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Toploader and hopefully will be installing it in my coupe soon but I want to make sure that I have all the parts before I start. I have a Street Super Shifter but I don��t want to cut anything up so I wanted to see if any of the parts were the same as the Comp +. They��re not so I started looking for a Competition + shifter and was wondering if the shifters were the same but the installation kits were different. I could always trade the kit if I had the wrong one but I don��t see to many people using the Super Shifter.

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Ed S.

68 S-code FB GT 4spd(now C6)/3.25 PS PDB
68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC Bla-Bla-Bla
99 F150 XLT Ext/cab, 4X4, 5.4L, 3L55

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