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Topic: So what tires do I buy?? Help!!
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Steve-UK
Gearhead Posts: 314
From: Wickford, Essex, England
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2005 03:19 PM
   
Well guys, I have a choice of tires to run for the series I intend to compete in this year they are as follows:-
Hoosier Quick Times
MT Sportsman Pro (and regular 'Sportsman', 'I' and 'Indy Profile')
MT ET Street Radials
BF Goodridge G-Force Drag Radials (both tread variations)The size of the rear tire I have fitted are 245/60R14 BFG T/A's so I was thinking of either the ET Street, 235/60/15 or BFG Comp T/A Drag, 235/50/15, as the BFG is a lower profile it will drop my gearing. (Yup I am going to get a pair of rims for the back in 15��) I don��t know much about the other tires listed above so any feed back would be great as well as suggestions. Many Thanks
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johnny 4-speed
Gearhead Posts: 173
From: Larkspur, Ca. USA
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 01-28-2005 04:29 PM
I run Hoosier DOT quick time pro's on my lane. They are about as close to a true slick as you can get. They're nice and sticky, even without a burnout. Only drawback is the price. Mounted and balanced, they were over $425. Ouch!! JD------------------
Never fry bacon naked!
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65 Fairlane
289ci
Top loader
9-inch w./5.13's & locker
27"x10.5 cheaters
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 21275
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-28-2005 06:28 PM
Steve, I'm doing the exact same thing. I have 14" rims and run 245-60-14's. I'm changing over 15" rims and one of the tires you've listed, another top chice is the M&H DOT tire too.
Every one I ask says the same thing. The ET street's or DOT quick time pro's are the best, then the Sportsmen or M&H dot tires, then the MT ET radials, BFG drag's.------------------
SCOOP
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mike70351w
Journeyman Posts: 82
From: Altus AFB OKlahoma
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 01-28-2005 08:52 PM
I'm too am having trouble deciding what drag radial tire to get. Are you guys settling on 235's due to fitment problem? I'm debating 235/60/15 vs 275/50/15 in a 70 fastback. What's the quickest 0-60ft times anyone seen on 235's and 275's
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 21275
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-28-2005 08:55 PM
Mike, for me the 235's would fit the best. Other wise I'd go with the 275's.------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe 351w C4 Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 6120
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 01-28-2005 11:58 PM
Put 275's on a 70, the 235's would be lost in there. A 65 or 66 doesn't have the room to have that choice.
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Steve-UK
Gearhead Posts: 314
From: Wickford, Essex, England
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-29-2005 04:37 AM
Hi Guys, Yes the reason I was going for the 235 width was for fitment reasons, as I don't want to mod the back of the car. Just not sure what to get!
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pendragon
Journeyman Posts: 9
From: Baytown Tx
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 01-29-2005 08:25 AM
If you are buying new rims you can use 275r15's if you buy rims with a 4 1/2" backspace. I am running 28 x 9-15 slicks on my 66 Mustang with no problems.
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 6120
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 01-29-2005 10:22 PM
Steve Are you sure you're really from England? I thought you guys spelled it "Tyres" ?The 275's ought to fit without blunt force. The wheels just need the right offset to be centered in the wheel openings.
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Steve-UK
Gearhead Posts: 314
From: Wickford, Essex, England
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-30-2005 08:10 AM
Yup from England, and yes we do spell "Tire" Tyre, but I was not sure if you would get it.So the MT ET Street Radial P275/50R15 (26 X 11.50R15 Tread 10.0 Overall Dia.26.1) should fit on a 10" wide rim with 4.5" backspace, under the back of the 66 without mods?
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pendragon
Journeyman Posts: 9
From: Baytown Tx
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 01-30-2005 09:56 AM
I'm not sure about a 275/50R15 as it is a 10" tread width. I am using 275/60R15 which is 8.9" tread width. My rear is a Lincoln Versailes which is actually slightly wider than stock.
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2831
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 01-30-2005 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Steve-UK:
So the MT ET Street Radial P275/50R15 (26 X 11.50R15 Tread 10.0 Overall Dia.26.1) should fit on a 10" wide rim with 4.5" backspace, under the back of the 66 without mods?
NO. The 4.5" backspace is correct, but you'll never get a 10" wide wheel tucked under a 66 without MAJOR modifications. All I can personally guarantee is a 235/60/15 on a 15x7 wheel... using the 4.5" backspace. Those WILL fit. Anything else is a gamble. I had to cut out the fronts and tops of my quarter panels to fit a 28x9" slick under my car. I also had to beat on the inner wheelhouse in the front to get it to clear. There's a lot of variance in these cars from the factory. They weren't put together all that precisely. If you measure the clearance between the outside of the tire and the quarter panel, you'll see that chances are, the rear housing will NOT be centered in the body. It can be off half and inch or more... which will cause one side to rub the fender before the other. The wheelhousings are also inconsistent. There is NO WAY a 28" tall tire was going to work on my car with an unmodified wheelhouse/quarter panel opening. I had to cut quite a bit out of the front to keep it from rubbing at speed. (I jacked it up on stands and revved it up in 4th gear to see how much the tire grew at speed... and trimmed the quarter with a sawsall until it cleared.  A person could center the axle and move it back an inch to gain more clearance... as there is plenty of room toward the rear. As for my mods, after I was happy with the cut, I took a 3/16" welding rod and bent it to fit the quarter panel opening. I then welded it between the inner and outer quarter panel. A little grinding and putty (along with some cheap enamel blended in) and you can't tell it's ever been touched. (except for the lack of a lip) Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?220
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 27499
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-30-2005 10:21 AM
Do the rules specifically dictate those three particular brand of tires?------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 21275
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-30-2005 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by n2oMike:
NO.The 4.5" backspace is correct, but you'll never get a 10" wide wheel tucked under a 66 without MAJOR modifications. All I can personally guarantee is a 235/60/15 on a 15x7 wheel... using the 4.5" backspace. Those WILL fit. Anything else is a gamble.
So you don't think a 15x8 rim with 4.5 backspacing will work ? I'd like to try a tire thats at least 9" wide. Unless you guys think a sticky "non slick" 8" wide tire will be enough for my set up ? With drag radials do have to worry about their expansion like slicks ?
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Steve-UK
Gearhead Posts: 314
From: Wickford, Essex, England
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-30-2005 01:43 PM
Thanks for the advice Mike I did think it was going to be tight.Alex the class I am running in is a Street Racers series, so the tires are ment to be street legal. So if there are other tires that are street legal, that you can recommend then I can always ask the guy organising the series, to see if they are allowed. Many Thanks Steve
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 27499
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-30-2005 02:28 PM
Welllllllllllll.......both M/T and M&H are making reproduction cheater slicks and they do have some tread.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,'04 &'05
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 21275
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-30-2005 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Welllllllllllll.......both M/T and M&H are making reproduction cheater slicks and they do have some tread.
These are the M&H
http://www.intercotire.com/html/cheater_slicks.htm
they have a radial too. http://www.intercotire.com/html/radial_racing.htm Are the M/T the ET street's or a new model ? ------------------
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9533
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-30-2005 06:08 PM
I can vouch for the M/T ET Streets. They work well enough to break my axle yesterday. We ran 10-26-15 MT Et Streets on Melissa's '66 when it was in a street class. They are DOT approved as a street tyre in the U.S. anyway. Note that the ET Streets are sized like street tires, and that isn't their actual size like it is with off road slicks. The 10-26-15's are really about 9" wide and fit a '66 fine on a 8" rim.SteveW SteveW
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Steve-UK
Gearhead Posts: 314
From: Wickford, Essex, England
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-30-2005 07:16 PM
Thanks for those Alex, I will send an email to the organisers to see what they say.SteveW the M/T ET Streets were they the radial ones or or just the ET Street?
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9533
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-30-2005 07:58 PM
SteveUK,They are the regular ET Streets, I haven't tried the radial ones and neither have my freinds. SteveW
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 6120
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 01-30-2005 09:02 PM
I have the 26" diameter 10" tread width ET Streets on my Ranger. Called 12.5 but that's the sidewall width. They actually measure about 12" wide on the 8" rims and no way they'll fit a 66 Mustang, i tried on a customers car and the stuck out past the wheel lip while being held against the inner. The 10.5 x 26's i used to have would fit on the right offset rim. An 8" rim with 4 1/2 to 5" backspace or a 7" rim on which backspace isn't so critical as it narrows the sidewalls.
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Toronado3800
Gearhead Posts: 1044
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-31-2005 02:55 AM
My 265/50/15s are CLOSE out back in my 68. Even scrubbed when I had three gals and some luggage in my car despite 100 pounds of air in the shocks before I put in the rear sway bar.------------------
Deep Amythist Pearl 68 Coupe, 351W, C-4, Troq Thrust D's 215/60/15 up front & 265/50/15 with 4.75 inch back spacing on rear
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majik455
Gearhead Posts: 184
From: duluth ga usa
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 01-31-2005 07:39 AM
mt et streets enought to shatter a leaf spring on one side as the front end came up :-) weeeeeeeeeeeeeee DUHT!!!!!
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mainer
Gearhead Posts: 165
From: Bryant Pond, Maine
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 01-31-2005 08:58 AM
I'm running mt et street radial 275/50/15 on a 68, stock rear end length on 15x10 draglites with 5.5bs. I needed to grind the bump stop and massage the inner fender just a bit. 10 minutes work on each side. 66 rear end is 2" narrower I believe so you may be able to go with 4.5bs.  ------------------
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Steve-UK
Gearhead Posts: 314
From: Wickford, Essex, England
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-31-2005 07:20 PM
Well thanks for all the input guys, Alex the first suggestion no-way the second maybe but they have not got the sizes that will fit, thanks anyway.So I am going to go for the 235/60R15 MT ET Street Radials.
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-31-2005 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Steve-UK:
Well thanks for all the input guys, Alex the first suggestion no-way the second maybe but they have not got the sizes that will fit, thanks anyway.So I am going to go for the 235/60R15 MT ET Street Radials.
Steve, would you let me know how they do ?
Will you be driving with them on the street too ?
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