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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-03-2004 12:49 AM
   
I bought a 1979 sbf 302,to build to go into a 1967 mustang coupe. I plan to race this next year on 1/8 mile drag. I have been out of racing for about`15 years. so I don't really know how to build these newer motor to do what I like to do. I would like the first year to reach about 7.5 in the 1/8. how would you build this. thanks------------------
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Catmando
Gearhead Posts: 181
From: Vermilion, OH USA
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 12-03-2004 12:58 AM
Im answering cuz nobody else did yet. There are others out there that will help you more for sure. Depending on the cash you want to spend, but I would definately look at heads first. If you have the money, aluminum, but if not you can score for very little money some GT-40 or GT-40p heads or Dart. (iron) Way better than the smoggers on that motor. I cannot convert 1/8 to 1/4 times, so I don't know how much power you need for your goal.
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 12-03-2004 01:42 AM
Welcome to M&M  !
Give us your budget and what trans you plan on using and we'll help you spend your money.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-03-2004 02:05 AM
about $2500 I can spend on motor this year, will being using a c-4 trans, have some one to do the work on it. but I have some work to do on the car too. this is a 6 cyl 67 mustang. quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Welcome to M&M !
Give us your budget and what trans you plan on using and we'll help you spend your money.
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CometGT1974
Gearhead Posts: 412
From: Asheville, NC USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 12-03-2004 07:51 AM
Shouldn't be that hard, I ran a 7.40 in my car with a small hydraulic roller cam in a 347 stroker. I would say a well built 306 with a decent flowing set of aluminum heads and a solid lift cam will get you there!!
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7221
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-03-2004 09:37 AM
dont know what gears you got now but you need some decent ones. 4.10 maybe? what will your car weigh?------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-302-7.33 @92mph 1/8
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-03-2004 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by capri man:
dont know what gears you got now but you need some decent ones. 4.10 maybe? what will your car weigh?
Don't know yet. don't know if i will go with a 8.8 or 9" ford. My car weights about 3200 or 3300 lbs. I once lived in doerun, was raise at Anderson city. I miss so. GA
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2898
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 12-03-2004 08:05 PM
welcome man, I told you these guys would help you. I saw him floundering amongst the bowtie crowd at DRR and sent him over here. You'll get lots of good advice here.
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7221
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-03-2004 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by xaeubanks:
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Don't know yet. don't know if i will go with a 8.8 or 9" ford. My car weights about 3200 or 3300 lbs. I once lived in doerun, was raise at Anderson city. I miss so. GA
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who are you?? do you know me??
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mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7221
From: doerun, ga.
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posted 12-03-2004 08:39 PM
oh by the way, if you know me, dont put it on here cause it will hurt you!! send me a private e-mail!! LOL------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
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wrksnfx
Gearhead Posts: 355
From: Warren,MI,Macomb
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 12-04-2004 02:44 AM
Well if you want to go the cheapest route possible you can go with a set of 1979 351 Windsor 4 Barrel heads and intake from any local salvage yard just make sure that the donor parts worked when they came in.These parts are interchangeable from 351W to 302W and go with the Nine Inch Rear End Differential from a 1979 Lincoln Town cars and Continentals w/ 460 big block in it because they came with a Nodular Iron Front Cover like they use in drag racing and Quad-Linked Suspension Axel Housing and Rear Disk Brakes and 31 Spline Axles which the Axel Housing and Axles can be shortened to fit your desired length and the cool thing about this Nine Inch Rear is that you can switch to the Ford Explorer Rear Disk Brakes Setup which to my knowledge has not had any problems like the Lincoln Town cars and Continentals did.
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chip67
Gearhead Posts: 245
From: louisville, ky, jefferson
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 12-04-2004 03:47 PM
hey, i know a guy with a 67 coupe (fully loaded) that just got into the 7.40's with a 302 on pump gas (hydraulic cam) without an adder. i dont know if you are wanting to run those numbers with pump gas compression and no adder. if your gonna jack the compression way up or run nitrous then your goal will be a cake walk. but if you wanna run it like i got mine the 351w heads aint gonna cut it without very decent port work. matter of fact, i wouldnt look at gt40p's or darts either. if your gonna just race it, strip it down and build a race only motor then 7.50's will be easy. maybe more info is needed. i could build you a cheap durable 302 with stock long block (duh) forged pistons, solid cam, and you could spray it into the mid 7's. with nitrous, the heads aint as important because you are cheating so you could save money there and spent it trying to get the chasis to hook and on the trans. ------------------
coupe, 306, 4 speed, 4.11's. pump gas, n/a street car. best so far is 7.48 (1/8 mile) at 93mph with 1.64 60ft. 11.80 at 113 on greased 1/4 track.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26811
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-04-2004 03:56 PM
My $1500 302 with a few up grades (in your budget) will fill the bill.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-04-2004 04:18 PM
Callaway Transmission in Hazel Green, Al. is going to build my transmission. dont know which converter yet. but waiting on my motor being built. I'm looking at AFR head, Victor Jr's, and Top line. Tring to find a 9" and don't know about 8.8's. I have a 750cfm Holley. don't have Intake. 2006 season looking at building a 393 stroker. But that is way off. quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
My $1500 302 with a few up grades (in your budget) will fill the bill.
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7221
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-04-2004 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by xaeubanks: I once lived in doerun, was raise at Anderson city. I miss so. GA
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yea i was raised close to anderson city also. around union baptist church. what is your name? we dont bite!!
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mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-302-7.33 @92mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft.
http://community.prestage.com/Member+Pages/789.aspx [This message has been edited by capri man (edited 12-04-2004).]
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-04-2004 04:58 PM
Alan Eubanks quote:
Originally posted by capri man:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by xaeubanks: I once lived in doerun, was raise at Anderson city. I miss so. GA
yea i was raised close to anderson city also. around union baptist church. what is your name? we dont bite!! [/B][/QUOTE]
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7221
From: doerun, ga.
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posted 12-04-2004 05:07 PM
ummmmmm dont guess i know any eubanks. do you remember jimmy watson? he is about 49-50 years old.------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-302-7.33 @92mph 1/8
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-04-2004 05:13 PM
don't guess so I was raise over on Milton rd. I'm 40
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Originally posted by capri man:
ummmmmm dont guess i know any eubanks. do you remember jimmy watson? he is about 49-50 years old.
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capri man
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From: doerun, ga.
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posted 12-04-2004 08:04 PM
i am 56 and i cant place milton road. do you mean minton road and where is it? ------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-04-2004 08:08 PM
yes I meant Minton rd. Its the first dirt road on left coming south on Hwy.33 from Sylvester quote:
Originally posted by capri man:
i am 56 and i cant place milton road. do you mean minton road and where is it?
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steve'66
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From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-04-2004 08:13 PM
Hey Mike,Why do they call it DoeRun? Are the males that bad, that they ran all the does off? SteveW
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-04-2004 08:31 PM
yes there are some big buck in Southwest Georgia quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Hey Mike,Why do they call it DoeRun? Are the males that bad, that they ran all the does off? SteveW
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Mr. FoMoGO
Journeyman Posts: 70
From: Ga. USA
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 12-04-2004 08:37 PM
Hey Mike you coming to Montgomery this weekend??If you are & we could get xaeubanks to come, we could get him started on the right foot.. He can see a stock 64 289 mustang run in the 6.40 in the 1/8 .I can use all the help I can get in tare down for the record. lol lol...... hey Alex come on down!!!
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-04-2004 08:46 PM
I would like to come down But I'm at Ft. Hood, Tx Won't be back till Christmas. but thanks guys quote:
Originally posted by Mr. FoMoGO:
Hey Mike you coming to Montgomery this weekend??If you are & we could get xaeubanks to come, we could get him started on the right foot.. He can see a stock 64 289 mustang run in the 6.40 in the 1/8 .I can use all the help I can get in tare down for the record. lol lol...... hey Alex come on down!!!
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capri man
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From: doerun, ga.
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posted 12-04-2004 08:47 PM
heck i forgot about it!! you mean the 10th-11th and 12th?? is this the one that they usually have at thanksgiving? stephen and horace, are yall coming?? i will try to come on fri at least. wonder if robert burgin will be there.------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-302-7.33 @92mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://community.prestage.com/Member+Pages/789.aspx
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7221
From: doerun, ga.
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posted 12-05-2004 10:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by xaeubanks:
yes I meant Minton rd. Its the first dirt road on left coming south on Hwy.33 from Sylvester
ok i know it well. i used to deer hunt on horse creek across cane mill road. lots of wisconsin deer in there. ------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-05-2004 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by capri man:
ok i know it well. i used to deer hunt on horse creek across cane mill road. lots of wisconsin deer in there.
Yes back in 1985 I shot a 14 pt. dressed out at 278 lbs. Shot right on my Dad's property------------------
1967 Mustang coupe
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 12-05-2004 09:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. FoMoGO:
Hey Mike you coming to Montgomery this weekend??If you are & we could get xaeubanks to come, we could get him started on the right foot.. He can see a stock 64 289 mustang run in the 6.40 in the 1/8 .I can use all the help I can get in tare down for the record. lol lol...... hey Alex come on down!!!
Sorry Everett, but we can't make it.
We have some family commitments this weekend.
Besides, all of our junk is put up for the winter.
Good luck and maybe tell Red and Jessie to keep me posted via cell phone. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Catmando
Gearhead Posts: 181
From: Vermilion, OH USA
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 12-05-2004 11:52 PM
Xaeubanks: Ahh, Ft. Hood. Spent the late 80's into the early 90's there. Lovely dust bowl. They had a dragstrip on post when I was there, next to the railroad tracks in the industrial area, cannot remember the name of the road, but it is by the main gate. They then moved it to North Ft. Hood at Longhorn airstrip. That was cool because of no return roads. You raced all the way down the track / airstrip, got to play NASCAR around the taxi turn around and came back the wrong way down the track!!! They closed it during Desert Storm. Is it back up???? What unit you with?
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Mr. FoMoGO
Journeyman Posts: 70
From: Ga. USA
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 12-06-2004 09:43 PM
Alex you may not miss anything, the weather is not looking real good for the weekend.But who knows The weatherman sure dosen't!!I'll tell them to give you a ring. Everett------------------
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xaeubanks
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Madison, Alabama, USA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-11-2004 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by Catmando:
Xaeubanks: Ahh, Ft. Hood. Spent the late 80's into the early 90's there. Lovely dust bowl. They had a dragstrip on post when I was there, next to the railroad tracks in the industrial area, cannot remember the name of the road, but it is by the main gate. They then moved it to North Ft. Hood at Longhorn airstrip. That was cool because of no return roads. You raced all the way down the track / airstrip, got to play NASCAR around the taxi turn around and came back the wrong way down the track!!! They closed it during Desert Storm. Is it back up???? What unit you with?
I'm not in now got out in 1988, I work on track vehicles. But the Army don't allow any racing on post any more. There is a strip down at Temple. But In Jan 2005 I will be back at home. And I going to start building my 302 up. I pick up a holley 870cfm today at a swap meet. Don't know if I can use on this engine, but may be able to use on the 393 I going to build next year. But will look at any suggests you have. Thank you ------------------
1967 Mustang coupe
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