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Topic: Best street/strip intake for a 351c?
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f100cleveland
Gearhead Posts: 328
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 11-28-2004 09:18 PM
   
Is there a better intake for the 351c other than the Blue Thunder? I'm just trying to find an intake that works best in my rpm range(4000-7100). I'm thinking a single plane cuz of the higher rpms but not sure. ------------------
1982 Ford F100 2wd Shortbox. Powered by a 357 Cleveland w/ closed chamber 4v's. Full Roller c-6 trans and 4.86 geared Detroit Locker equipped 9" rear. www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displayalbum.php?&albumid=13034
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Toronado3800
Gearhead Posts: 903
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 11-28-2004 11:40 PM
I always heard the single planes work better at that range but don't have experience with anything other than the two Edelbrock Performer intakes which I love.From your profile it sounds like your Cleveland is more radical than my ol' Chevy Stroker but I did run a unport matched Performer RPM to 6600 all the time on that motor.
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Scott (69Mach)
Gearhead Posts: 760
From: Walnut Creek, CA USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-29-2004 10:20 AM
My Blue Thunder spins to 7k without wheezing.
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 828
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 11-29-2004 01:12 PM
> Is there a better intake for the 351c other than the Blue Thunder? I'm
> just trying to find an intake that works best in my rpm range(4000-7100).
> I'm thinking a single plane cuz of the higher rpms but not sure. The Strip Dominator might work better for you but you'll have to test
to be sure. Have you tried playing with open spacers on the Blue Thunder?
Besides the Strip Dominator, you might also consider the Ford Motorsport
(made by Roush and Edelbrock) intakes made for the aluminum high port heads
(A3, B351, C302B, etc) or one of the Australian single plane race intakes.
These intakes will have smaller than 4V ports but will bolt up. The Ford
Motorpsort intakes will likely need a bit of port matching. If I were
trying one, I'd try a CHI 3V intake. It has a port that is filled in
the bottom and side but should fall within the 4V port outline. I've
got one in the garage at the moment and could bolt it up to a spare 4V
head if interested. BTW, Jon Kaase tested a Yates intake on his EMC-winning
entry but the the CHI intake performed better. Dan Jones
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f100cleveland
Gearhead Posts: 328
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 11-29-2004 01:50 PM
Dan, do you think one of the Yates intakes that were port matched would outperform a Blue Thunder? And is there enough material to port it out to 4v size? I've been playin with some spacers, had a 4 hole, a HVH Super Sucker, and a HVH Street Sweeper. The Street Sweeper seems to work the best but that could be due to the fact that it is made for dual plane intakes. But where could I go to try to find a Yates style intake? Which one would you recommend?
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1982 Ford F100 2wd Shortbox. Powered by a 357 Cleveland w/ closed chamber 4v's. Full Roller c-6 trans and 4.86 geared Detroit Locker equipped 9" rear. http://www.supermotors.org/registry/vehicles/detail.php?id=6723
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Perk 351C
Journeyman Posts: 67
From: Cape Neddick Me USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 11-29-2004 05:09 PM
I thought the Parker Funnelweb 4V was the hot set up?
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 828
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 11-29-2004 06:21 PM
> Dan, do you think one of the Yates intakes that were port matched would
> outperform a Blue Thunder? I would think so. > And is there enough material to port it out to 4v size? Most of the Motorsport intakes are thin-walled and won't port out to a
4V size. However, there is one Yates intake that is thick-walled. I
have one here and I'll bolt it up to a 4V head and see how it aligns.
It did bolt up nicely to an A3. > But where could I go to try to find a Yates style intake? The Ford Motorsport catalog. Also, Edelbrock makes a couple.
Let me see if the one I have here will work. If so, I'm not
using it. It came with a bunch of parts I bought a while back. > Which one would you recommend? Hard to say. I've got a variety of intakes here. I'll try bolting
a few of them up to a 4V head and see which ones look best. I also
have a CHI intake here. It's not mine but it may be for sale. It
was a spare intake for one of the Engine Masters entries. I don't
know if the owner intends to keep it or sell but I can ask if you are
interested. Dan Jones
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Fordwiser
Gearhead Posts: 408
From: Metamora, Illinois
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 11-29-2004 06:26 PM
As cheap as you can find Edelbrock Torkers, I think I'd give one a try, test your spacers, plus open ones 1-in and 2-in Most used Torkers that I've seen go between $75-$125
I use a Strip Dominater and I agree with the others, with the weight of your truck and the stall you would see very little improvement, if at all with the SD plus they aren't cheap!
Roger
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f100cleveland
Gearhead Posts: 328
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 11-29-2004 09:31 PM
Dan, I would be very interested in the CHI intake if it is for the 4v heads and it depends on which Ford Motorsports intake it was. I don't want one of the intakes that is made for 4500+. Let me know, you can send pics to [email protected] if you have any of them. Thanks------------------
1982 Ford F100 2wd Shortbox. Powered by a 357 Cleveland w/ closed chamber 4v's. Full Roller c-6 trans and 4.86 geared Detroit Locker equipped 9" rear. http://www.supermotors.org/registry/vehicles/detail.php?id=6723
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MrXerox
Gearhead Posts: 348
From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-30-2004 12:09 AM
Looks like your in the running for a Strip Dominator  Just be careful of those holes they drilled, I would not pay a premium for that intake...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7937356020&cate gory=36474 [This message has been edited by MrXerox (edited 11-30-2004).]
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f100cleveland
Gearhead Posts: 328
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 11-30-2004 12:42 AM
Yeah, I don't think I will go any higher. The holes kinda have me wondering, thats why I stopped there. I guess we will find out in a couple days if someone decides to go higher.------------------
1982 Ford F100 2wd Shortbox. Powered by a 357 Cleveland w/ closed chamber 4v's. Full Roller c-6 trans and 4.86 geared Detroit Locker equipped 9" rear. http://www.supermotors.org/registry/vehicles/detail.php?id=6723
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 828
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 11-30-2004 12:37 PM
> Dan, I would be very interested in the CHI intake if it is for the 4v heads The CHI intake is for CHI's 3V heads. It should bolt-up but will have
a smaller port. I've had it bolted up to an A3 head but I'll check it
on a 4V head this weekend. > and it depends on which Ford Motorsports intake it was. I don't want one
> of the intakes that is made for 4500+. It's an E351. The plenum isn't overly large (it's about a 1/2 inch shorter
than a D351), nor are the ports. It's claim to fame is thick walls that can
be ported to match a variety of cylinder heads. > Let me know, you can send pics to [email protected] if you have any of
> them. Will do. Dan Jones
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f100cleveland
Gearhead Posts: 328
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 11-30-2004 01:14 PM
Well, someone with no feedback decided to throw in a higher bid. So I'm looking more seriously again for an intake. I'm open to any of the single planes that are known to perform well. Thanks------------------
1982 Ford F100 2wd Shortbox. Powered by a 357 Cleveland w/ closed chamber 4v's. Full Roller c-6 trans and 4.86 geared Detroit Locker equipped 9" rear. http://www.supermotors.org/registry/vehicles/detail.php?id=6723
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1098
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 11-30-2004 05:04 PM
Here's one:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7938034293&category=36474&sspagename=WDVW And here's one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item =7937648347&category=36474&sspagename=WDVW ------------------
Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 408C 4V, best time to date is 10.50 best MPH 127 [This message has been edited by clevelandstyle (edited 11-30-2004).]
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Dad Vishus
Gearhead Posts: 856
From: Moscow, Iowa, USA
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 11-30-2004 05:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MrXerox:
Looks like your in the running for a Strip Dominator Just be careful of those holes they drilled, I would not pay a premium for that intake...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7937356020&cate gory=36474 [This message has been edited by MrXerox (edited 11-30-2004).]
I wouldn't worry about those holes too much. They could be plugged or welded up by a competent shop.Mine has the injectors in that location.
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2499
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 11-30-2004 06:38 PM
Nitrous nozzles are generally 1/16" pipe thread. It's a fairly uncommon size, but you should be able to find plugs at McMaster or someplace.Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
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f100cleveland
Gearhead Posts: 328
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 11-30-2004 06:51 PM
If I fork out that much money, I'd like to have one that didn't have the 8 holes in it cuz I really doubt I will ever use it. But here is a question, does anyone know what the approximate powerband of the Ford Motorsports E351 intake is? Or how would it compare to the Strip Dommy? ------------------
1982 Ford F100 2wd Shortbox. Powered by a 357 Cleveland w/ closed chamber 4v's. Full Roller c-6 trans and 4.86 geared Detroit Locker equipped 9" rear. http://www.supermotors.org/registry/vehicles/detail.php?id=6723 [This message has been edited by f100cleveland (edited 11-30-2004).]
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