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TurboGT Gearhead Posts: 149 From: Hutchinson, Kansas Registered: Mar 2002	posted 11-10-2004 05:04 PM I had considered running some IHRA races in 2005. With this latest change, I guess not... http://207.230.157.91/news/2004/november/1109div3schedule.htm ------------------ Mark Walton '83 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo NHRA Stocker - it's alive! '69 "off brand" NHRA SS/EA IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-10-2004 06:19 PM I'll tell you guys, I just don't know where the hell Skooter's head is at. This "short term pain for a long term gain" policy seems to be alienating more racers than they are gaining. 2003 and 2004 were tremendous growth years for the IHRA, and now I am getting nervous about the future of sportsman racers in 2005 and beyond. Without Bill Bader to keep the current powers in check, a lot of common sense will no longer be applied. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
TurboGT Gearhead Posts: 149 From: Hutchinson, Kansas Registered: Mar 2002	posted 11-10-2004 06:33 PM quote: They are all successful tracks in their own right, so I hope when IHRA gets bigger in that part of the country, we can go back with the events we were trying to build,? said Peaco. This is the second time they've tried to infiltrate these parts, only to pull back out. How do they hope to "get bigger" pulling stunts like this? I'm with you Alex, the future with the sportsman communuty isn't looking good. ------------------ Mark Walton '83 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo NHRA Stocker - it's alive! '69 "off brand" NHRA SS/EA IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-11-2004 12:48 AM I'm going to miss our Iowa and Minnisota friends. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-11-2004 08:59 AM I saw this yesterday and wondered what this really accomplishes. I can kindof see eliminating the Eddyville race, it seems to not draw alot of cars, but the Cedar Falls race?? Doesn't make much sense to me. ------------------ 63 Falcon 377 Cleveland stroker Flying Toilet alchohol injection. 6.19 @ 110 MPH 1/8 mile 2002 Ranger FX4 daily driver 2000 F350 PSD Crew cab dually - Like commuting in a B52!! 98 US Cargo Phantom II 28' IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-11-2004 09:07 AM We (the Pro Am racers) actually wanted out of Eddyville DV. We would have rather run at Humbolt. It wasn't the track, it was Gary and his attitude towards us. He just never wanted us there from the begining starting in 2000. He never made us feel welcome there, but more of a nuisance. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-11-2004 05:49 PM I re read that piece on IHRAs web page and now I'm really confused. It almost sounds like they are eliminating Division 5 altogether. I originally thought it was just re aligning the Pro-Am races. The way the story sounds, Div. 3 now encompasses Div. 5 to the Mississippi but nothing is said about what happens to us! What's the scoop here? Are we now non-entities. really ------------------ 63 Falcon 377 Cleveland stroker Flying Toilet alchohol injection. 6.19 @ 110 MPH 1/8 mile 2002 Ranger FX4 daily driver 2000 F350 PSD Crew cab dually - Like commuting in a B52!! 98 US Cargo Phantom II 28' IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-11-2004 06:12 PM That is correct DV. We (division 5) are no more. 5 years of busting my ass trying to promote IHRA in the midwest and getting NHRA racers to crossover all for nothing. Signed...the former IHRA division 5 Superstock champion, of the formenr division 5. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
kid vishus Gearhead Posts: 5792 From: middle of NC Registered: Oct 2000	posted 11-11-2004 07:31 PM quote: Originally posted by Moneymaker: He never made us feel welcome there, but more of a nuisance. Don't feel too bad about that. From what I have heard from several buddies this year, Gary thinks (acts like) the weekly bracket racers are a nuisance also. He succeeded this past year in chasing several longtime racers away from Eddyville. IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-11-2004 07:47 PM So, are the tracks west of the river now without a sanction? I don't understand how they can do this? So if that's the case, they are abandoning Iowa, Minnesota, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Norht and South Dakota? How many thousand dues paying racers does that account for? ------------------ 63 Falcon 377 Cleveland stroker Flying Toilet alchohol injection. 6.19 @ 110 MPH 1/8 mile 2002 Ranger FX4 daily driver 2000 F350 PSD Crew cab dually - Like commuting in a B52!! 98 US Cargo Phantom II 28' IP: Logged
kid vishus Gearhead Posts: 5792 From: middle of NC Registered: Oct 2000	posted 11-11-2004 07:53 PM quote: Originally posted by Dad Vishus: How many thousand dues paying racers does that account for? Obviously not enough for it to matter to them. IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-11-2004 08:00 PM No guys, the tracks are all still sanctioned and our memberships are all in tact. We are all now members of division 3 instead of division 5. You need to contact Sherrie Barbour at IHRA to get a new division 3 number. SHe can do it for you via e-mail. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
Strain Gang Gearhead Posts: 195 From: Thor, Iowa Registered: Mar 2003	posted 11-11-2004 08:20 PM I was suprised by this also. We FINALLY got all of our ducks in a row to come hang out with Alex, Tony and Beth a the Divisionals and run Hot Rod, but not now. Looks like we just go to Cedar Falls and run the Summit Super Series thing. Alex: I actually feel honored that you said you would rather run Humboldt than Eddyville. Heck, I would pay your entry to see the bodylines of ole MoneyMaker at Humboldt!!!! IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-11-2004 08:24 PM At least we still have Cordova and Byron. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-11-2004 08:39 PM Well, I think this really sucks! I don't want to change numbers. How can they do this? Why are they doing this? Will enough PO'd racers calling and emailing IHRA do any good? We shouldn't go down without a fight. I know more that one guy in central Iowa that have spent thousands on Top Sportsman cars. Now they have one or two reasonably close races to run. What about guys in Colorado or the Dakotas? They have to go 1000 miles now to run races like that. I bet that takes care of the bracket finals at Cordova, too. This is ridiculous and unnecessary. Idiot Hot Rod Asses ------------------ 63 Falcon 377 Cleveland stroker Flying Toilet alchohol injection. 6.19 @ 110 MPH 1/8 mile 2002 Ranger FX4 daily driver 2000 F350 PSD Crew cab dually - Like commuting in a B52!! 98 US Cargo Phantom II 28' [This message has been edited by Dad Vishus (edited 11-11-2004).] IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-11-2004 08:53 PM I'm willing to start it, but I don't want to go it alone. How many division 5 racers can you guys contact that will help with e-mails? I am pretty certain that I can get most if not all of the Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnisota, and Illinois S/SS racers to jump in. We will be fighting a losing battle, but at least we let them know that they have alienated a substancial amount of their membership that they worked very hard to obtain. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-11-2004 09:11 PM I'm in. I know quite a few guys that I can get to do it, I'm sure. Who do we yell at! IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-11-2004 09:23 PM Get me some numbers first. How many card carrying IHRA members (Pro Am and Summit Series) can we get. I would like to try diplomacy first as long as I know that we have a fair amount of wiling e-mailers behind us if the former fails. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-11-2004 09:52 PM I know lots of em. I don't have email addresses for many though. I'd have to do some phone calling, but I will. T/S, T/D, Quick Rod, Super Rod and Hot Rod guys all ought to be in favor of squawking. IP: Logged
Strain Gang Gearhead Posts: 195 From: Thor, Iowa Registered: Mar 2003	posted 11-11-2004 10:01 PM Alex: I could talk to Polewiks and also to Tim Olson. ( Yes, Tim and I still talk, he actually apologized), and find some more around my area. Jay Roeder might be a willing participant. Let me know what I can do. Today is Toms birthday, and we all pitched in to get his membership and permanent number. His number is 5615, does that mean we will have to get it changed to 3615? Steve. IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-11-2004 10:14 PM How's Lane Dicken, 2004 Div. 5 T/D champion sound? I know him well. No doubt he won't be happy about this. IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-11-2004 10:29 PM Oh I know that Jay is hot. He posted on IHRA's drag talk forum and was already deleted. Look here > http://ihra.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=429 Actually you guys should post your dissatisfaction there yourselves RIGHT NOW also. The more the merrier. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com [This message has been edited by Moneymaker (edited 11-11-2004).] IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-11-2004 11:36 PM Done. IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-12-2004 12:03 AM If we can get enough racers to post on that thread (before it gets deleted)then we will go on to the next step. It will take at least 150-200 respondents to get their attention guys and gals. I have the appropriate e-mail addresses and will give them to you as soon as you are ready. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-12-2004 02:22 PM Well, check out the newly posted div. 3 Pro-Am schedule in IHRA.com They added some info to it. The Division 5 Pro-Ams are the only races being changed. The bracket programs will remain under Div. 5 with the finals still at Cordova. Either they changed their minds about killing off the division altogether or they didn't explain that very well. Its still ridiculous to justify eliminating races in the Pro-Am series to make participation grow. Would you shoot a chicken to get more eggs? Certainly seems like somewhat of an about face to me! ------------------ 63 Falcon 377 Cleveland stroker Flying Toilet alchohol injection. 6.19 @ 110 MPH 1/8 mile 2002 Ranger FX4 daily driver 2000 F350 PSD Crew cab dually - Like commuting in a B52!! 98 US Cargo Phantom II 28' IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-12-2004 02:38 PM I guess maybe we should become bracket racers huh Tom??? ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
Dad Vishus Gearhead Posts: 762 From: Moscow, Iowa, USA Registered: Dec 2001	posted 11-12-2004 02:59 PM I'm not sure I shouldn't go back to fishing. The only sanctioning body I'd have to deal with then is the DNR. ------------------ 63 Falcon 377 Cleveland stroker Flying Toilet alchohol injection. 6.19 @ 110 MPH 1/8 mile 2002 Ranger FX4 daily driver 2000 F350 PSD Crew cab dually - Like commuting in a B52!! 98 US Cargo Phantom II 28' IP: Logged
TurboGT Gearhead Posts: 149 From: Hutchinson, Kansas Registered: Mar 2002	posted 11-12-2004 03:32 PM The Division 4 schedule is now posted, too: http://www.ihra.com/news/2004/november/1112division4schedule.htm The Tulsa race is still there, so that leaves one Pro-Am in place that's less than a 600 mile drive for me. ------------------ Mark Walton '83 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo NHRA Stocker - it's alive! '69 "off brand" NHRA SS/EA [This message has been edited by TurboGT (edited 11-12-2004).] IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-12-2004 03:46 PM Right now (as of this moment) there are a whopping FIVE of us who have posted on the IHRA website regarding dissatisfaction of this unannounced eradication of an entire division. If we want to be heard I suspect that more need to voice their oppinions. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged
lawless Gearhead Posts: 386 From: Richmond, VA Registered: Aug 2000	posted 11-12-2004 04:18 PM Hate to say this guys, but in my 12+ years in the radio broadcast business, this is a typical Clear Channel move. You think NHRA is all about the money??... Clear Channel is definitly all about the money. If CC thinks that they can combine something/anything to save on costs they will. I honestly think that this is not something that Skooter Peaco had any say in... he was told by the Clear Channel "market research" geniuses that this is the way it would go down. Class Racers be damned. It's a hell of a lot cheaper for Clear Channel to cater to the bracket racers than it is the class racers. Expect to see more of the same in years to come with Clear Channel running the show. Chris IP: Logged
TurboGT Gearhead Posts: 149 From: Hutchinson, Kansas Registered: Mar 2002	posted 11-12-2004 04:45 PM Not that it'll have much of an effect, since I wasn't a member, but I put in my $.02 on the IHRA forum. ------------------ Mark Walton '83 Mustang GT 2.3 Turbo NHRA Stocker - it's alive! '69 "off brand" NHRA SS/EA IP: Logged
Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 23204 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99	posted 11-12-2004 05:34 PM Thanks Mark. But...as the expression goes Something is rotten in Denmark. Some top IHRA officials have a math problem. They claim that there are only 125 total division 5 competitors. Of that alledged 125, only 5 have expressed any concern or complaint. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com IP: Logged

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