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indyphil
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posted 11-02-2004 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I started the website for my 331 buildup now that parts started arriving.

http://www.geocities.com/ottouk_77/newengine.htm

I will bump this thread up with an update anytime something exciting happens. Its all exciting to me since this is my first ground up engine build!

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Dave_C
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posted 11-02-2004 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice page. It'll be good to keep up with it.
Cool info on the piston speed.

For those like myself that flunked math what's the formula for piston speed. Just curious How about my 557 BBF (4.500" stroke) at 7000 rpm?

David Cole

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indyphil
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posted 11-02-2004 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your piston goes up a full stroke and down a full stroke in one rev

so take your stroke and double it. thats the distance your piston travels in one rev.

next take your RPM (Revs/min)

Multiply the two and thats your speed in inches/min (assuming you used inches for your stroke)

Divide the answer by 12 to get feet/min
and divide by 60 to get feet/sec

Therefore:

Mean Piston speed (feet/sec) =

2 x stroke(in) x speed(RPM)
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720


Mean piston speed is a good indicator of stresses on components, and might help decide on a cam or on some heads. My example shows that a 331 at 7500 is similar to a 302 at 8100RPM.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 11-03-2004 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
COOL

Oooooh baby, the mid-range of those strokers in a lightweight platform does not promote rear tire longevity

That's awesome Phil, glad to hear that you're building it yourself! Email me if you run into any hickups... I'd be happy to help if I can. I'll be watching this thread to see & enjoy the progress

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indyphil
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posted 11-03-2004 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its going to be slow going.
I got the pistons last night (JE pistons SRP)
They forgot the spiral locks.

The pin/piston fit is truly awesome. It glides right in.

I need rings, bearings and those core plug things. Any advice on rings and bearings? the JE rings are very expensive.

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'68 coupe, '66 289 C code
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Ryan Wilke
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posted 11-03-2004 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by indyphil:
Its going to be slow going.
I got the pistons last night (JE pistons SRP)
They forgot the spiral locks.

Phil,
Get ready to use your "bad word dictionary" when you go to install those spiral locks......they're a REAL bear!! They'll turn your finger tips to hamburger!

Good Luck!
Ryan

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indyphil
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posted 11-03-2004 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK I have a few engine building questions
If I install spiral locks can I get them out without ruining them?

Where is the Bore diameter measured to determine "piston/bore clearance"? there is a gage point on the piston (my pistons are about 4.0275) but where is the bore measured?

I have more questions but I need time to think things through.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 11-03-2004 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Mooney
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posted 11-03-2004 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney   Click Here to Email Mooney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome Phil! Congrats on doin' it yourself as well. Definately keep us updated on your progress!

Best of luck!
Luke

BTW When are you going to talk to Steve about changing your name to LantaPhil

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 11-04-2004 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by indyphil:
If I install spiral locks can I get them out without ruining them?

Where is the Bore diameter measured to determine "piston/bore clearance"? there is a gage point on the piston (my pistons are about 4.0275) but where is the bore measured?


-- Some folks may say you can reuse them, but I'd recommend NOT reusing them.

-- Regarding where to measure the bore; the only direction I'm familiar with is that you should take at least two measurements; each location should be at least 1" down from the deck or 1" up from the bottom of the cylinder, they should be 90* from each other, and I've heard some say the measurements should be taken with the torque plate still bolted/torqued on top of the block..... However, not everyone HAS a torque plate, and for most non-professional engine builders (meaning MUCH tighter build specs), I'd say having it on isn't that critical when taking the measurements.

Ryan

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indyphil
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posted 11-05-2004 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK I talked to JE pistons, they said that my spiral locks should be included but were taped to the underside of a piston. I found them last night and feel like a dummy.

Mooney! Im not going to change my username since im almost at 2000 posts! Indiana still feels like home but Georgia is rapidly catching up.

I noticed from Sams board that you are paintballing Sunday? There is a paintball place across the street from me, so if thats something you enjoy you should come down.

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