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Topic: NHRA CHANGES ROLL BAR RULES
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7DMACH1
Gearhead Posts: 2359
From: PHILA. PA.
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-02-2004 10:49 AM
   
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-02-2004 12:01 PM
We have stockers running in the nines now, yet most classes still do not require jackets.
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Dave_C
Gearhead Posts: 968
From: Gadsden, Al
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 11-02-2004 12:36 PM
I think one of the ones that will cause lot's of complaints is:Drivers in 9.99 to 7.50 front-engine, open-bodied cars or closed-bodied cars without an OEM or steel firewall and with nitrous oxide, methanol, ethanol, supercharger, turbocharger, or any car with an automatic transmission in the driver compartment must have a jacket and pants meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/15 and gloves and shoes or boots meeting SFI Spec 3.3/5. I take that to mean than if you car runs on methanol or has nitrous and has an aluminum firewall that the driver will now have to step up to a heavy, HOT, 3.2A/15 suit. This is literally *thousands* of bracket and sportsman racers who have a fabricated chassis and run on alky or have giggle gas. I'm glad it doesn't apply to me as mine is rear engined. I already had to deal with their crappy rule on adding extra bars to my cage. (Was a dragster only rule) David Cole
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1718
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-02-2004 02:25 PM
great, now i really don't need the rollbar. there goes 2 weeks fabricating time, $120 worth of tube and another 80+ pounds added to the car it doesn't need.Remind me not to prepare for tommorow today, it allways seems to backfire on me. [This message has been edited by Dubz (edited 11-02-2004).]
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 2398
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 11-02-2004 02:36 PM
Dubz,
just because its gone from 11.99 to 11.49 doesnt change the chances of you losing the car and rolling. They are trying to encourage more people to run street cars - so they are relaxing the rules. I take that to mean that they are prepared to accept that this may mean people get hurt. How fast is 11.50? Not very fast in a modern car like a 03 cobra. But it would be pretty darn scary in a car like my 68 with drum brakes all round and a twisty body with no subframe connectors. I would go ahead an put that roll-bar in and not think about it. I know plenty of folks who run mid 12's and the roll bar was a high on their priority list. ------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1718
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-02-2004 04:29 PM
i'll maybe run 15's if i'm lucky, it was a plan for once the motor combo was all built. cage is allready in, still gotta get a decent pic sometime
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 1542
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-02-2004 04:39 PM
Yeah, Alex, I always thought it was odd, a bracket car running 11.99 requires a jacket for the driver,but many 10,&11 second Stocker racers don`t use one. I alway see Jim Waldo running low 10`s with a T shirt. But than again, on my 85 Mustang Stocker (mid 12`s), I need a SFI clutch & scattershield, plus a roll bar, but if I was to run in brackets , I wouldn`t need any of that stuff. ------------------
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1724
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 11-02-2004 05:26 PM
Call me crazy, but I'm glad I waited for the 11.50 roll bar rule!
Now I don't have to sandbag anymore just to stay within the rules and I still get to keep the little 'stang passenger friendly.  ------------------
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 5761
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 11-02-2004 05:45 PM
I like these new changes... it means i can now step up the Ranger a full second without having to do the rollbar/scattershield thing. It means this other Fairlane i'm building (OK, hoping it builds itself some day) won't need a rollbar till it becomes relatively quick. Those stock-appearing 11 second musclecars will be legal again. The rules on the crankshaft height for trucks make good sense. The diesel racers will like that. These are common sense and improve upon some 1960's-era rules.
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jeffstar
Journeyman Posts: 93
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 11-03-2004 10:43 AM
I don't understand the rationale for no data recorders? Anyone have any idea why they would ban data recoders?Jeff ???
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JCQuinn@work
Gearhead Posts: 826
From: Lakewood, CO, USA
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 11-03-2004 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Dave_C:
I think one of the ones that will cause lot's of complaints is:Drivers in 9.99 to 7.50 front-engine, open-bodied cars or closed-bodied cars without an OEM or steel firewall and with nitrous oxide, methanol, ethanol, supercharger, turbocharger, or any car with an automatic transmission in the driver compartment must have a jacket and pants meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/15 and gloves and shoes or boots meeting SFI Spec 3.3/5. I take that to mean than if you car runs on methanol or has nitrous and has an aluminum firewall that the driver will now have to step up to a heavy, HOT, 3.2A/15 suit. This is literally *thousands* of bracket and sportsman racers who have a fabricated chassis and run on alky or have giggle gas. I'm glad it doesn't apply to me as mine is rear engined. I already had to deal with their crappy rule on adding extra bars to my cage. (Was a dragster only rule) David Cole
Go here http://dragracingonline.com/ , I'll bet that driver was glad to have some hot heavy fire protection. According to the story that is the result of a tranny explosion. It sure gets my attention. John
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F570rd
Journeyman Posts: 64
From: mpls.mn.hennipin
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 11-03-2004 03:20 PM
11.49 and quicker is a relacksing of the rule.It now parralels IHRA.Huuuuummmmmm?
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