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68 S-code GT
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posted 10-28-2004 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
I see from the factory that up 67 (C & A codes) Ford used one flywheel then 68 on a different one for the 289 and 302s (C & J codes). The 351s used yet another flywheel and bell housing comb. I��m pretty sure they are interchangeable provided the flywheel, bell housing and starter are a match set. What size clutches where available stock and since I will be going aftermarket what size should I get? It would be for a slightly modified 302 of 351C for street use with an occasional run down the track. This would all be hooked up to 4-spd toploader that if my memory is working this morning has a wide ratio gear set.

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Ed S.

68 S-code FB GT 4spd(now C6)/3.25 PS PDB
68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC
99 F150 XLT Ext/cab, 4X4, 5.4L, 3L55

68 S-code GT
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posted 10-30-2004 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
Anybody?

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Ed S.

68 S-code FB GT 4spd(now C6)/3.25 PS PDB
68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC
99 F150 XLT Ext/cab, 4X4, 5.4L, 3L55

Moneymaker
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posted 10-30-2004 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
260-289-302 standard OEM was 10 inch.
Hipo stuff was 10.5 inch.
Boss 302 and 351's were 11 inch.

Now as far as what you should get, I sould suggest a 10 or 10.5 diaphram for primary street use. Like Centerforce, although that brand would not be my first choice.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 10-30-2004 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
260-289-302 standard OEM was 10 inch.
Hipo stuff was 10.5 inch.
Boss 302 and 351's were 11 inch.



So an 11" will only work with the Boss 302 and 351 flywheel?

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Ed S.

68 S-code FB GT 4spd(now C6)/3.25 PS PDB
68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC
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Moneymaker
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posted 10-30-2004 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
Or an aftermarket flywheel which is drilled to accomodate an 11 inch pressure plate.
Don't get caught up in the "bigger is better" syndrome. If you can get a deal on a 11 set up (bell housing, fork, flywheel, etc) then I would say go for it, but if you have a choice then 10 or 10.5 is plenty.
Current "Race" clutches are only 7 to 8 inch.

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Alex Denysenko
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bluestreek
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posted 10-30-2004 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek        Reply w/Quote
MM is right on. The 11" will work but is heavier and very stiff and gets real grabby in a light car. I'm pretty sure the 10.5 diapragm clutch can be bought for a standard or large HD bell/flywheel setup, but a 11" clutch MUST use the larger 11" HD setup. The trick is to get everything to match including the specific starter or your in for a big headache.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 10-30-2004 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
Tanks!

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Ed S.

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68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC
99 F150 XLT Ext/cab, 4X4, 5.4L, 3L55

Moneymaker
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posted 10-30-2004 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
FYI!
Almost every clutch manufacturer offers a 10 or 10.5 cover to fit an 11 inch flywheel.

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Alex Denysenko
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mizry
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posted 10-30-2004 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mizry        Reply w/Quote
And the 351's use the 164 tooth flywheel to get the 11 inch clutch to fit. where as the 289's and 302 use the smaller 157 tooth flywheel, and each has their own bell. A scatter sheild will use either flywheel and a billet 164 tooth flywheel can use a 10-11 inch clutch but not a latemodel clutch. You cant have a 11 inch clutch on a 157 tooth flywheel. Some other things to know but that gets more into late model conversions and bellhousings.

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