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Cain
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From: Portland, Oregon
Registered: Oct 2004

posted 10-27-2004 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cain   Click Here to Email Cain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently destroyed the clutch in my 69 Mach 1. Car is street/strip. Here's the specs:
410 windsor based stroker
AFR 205 heads
Victor Jr intake
Comp cams solid roller cam 248/254 @ .050 .614 .621
BIGS HP 950 stage 5
4 speed toploader
3.91 locker
28X10 Hoosier slicks at the track

This car sees more time on the street than at the track. What clutch would be best for this car?

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steve'66
Gearhead

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From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 10-27-2004 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CenterForce Dual Friction.

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johnny 4-speed
Gearhead

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From: Larkspur, Ca. USA
Registered: Oct 2004

posted 10-27-2004 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnny 4-speed   Click Here to Email johnny 4-speed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't mind a little more pedal pressure, I recommend a Ram "long-style", with organic friction material. Mine is a non-adjustable 3000lb. I think they offer a 2800lb type. I recommend the adjustable type for track tuning, but it requires boring a hole in your bellhosing(to access adjustment screws). A shrewd tech inspector might catch the hole, but you could tap and plug it. I had an 11" D/F Centerforce, the weight retaining ring failed at 7000. Centerforce rates their dual friction clutches at 6800, no gaurantees beyond that. JD

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MrWesson22
Gearhead

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From: Dacula, GA
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posted 10-27-2004 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrWesson22   Click Here to Email MrWesson22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto on Steve's recommendation.

I love the DF in my 69.

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69 Gulfstream Aqua Grande
351C/4sp
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mizry
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From: ca
Registered: Sep 2004

posted 10-27-2004 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mizry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do your self a favor and get a built c4. Your next step up in a clutch is a metalic disc, that means sfi approved plate, flywheel and bell. And then you may have problems with it on the street. You could stay with the organics and a heavy plate but then you have to deal with linkage problems and a slow reacting clutch. Ive blown organics, ceramics and then a iron clutch with a 289 and the last one cost me a block. And im sure your engine has more in it but a race clutch wont hang on the street. If it was a track only car or never used slicks than that would be easy. go c4 and be done with it.

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steve'66
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posted 10-27-2004 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mizry:
Do your self a favor and get a built c4.

I have to agree with this statement! When we switched from a 351w to a 408w the built c-4 was already in. And outperformed the t-5 too.

SteveW

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Cain
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From: Portland, Oregon
Registered: Oct 2004

posted 10-27-2004 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cain   Click Here to Email Cain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I originally built this engine to put in my 68 cougar. Its a bit more of a "race" car with the 8 pt cage that I put in a few months back. So, more than likely I'll be running a c4 in the cougar. I probably won't do the swap until May or June.
That still doesn't change the fact that my clutch is hashed and I need a new one regardless. I was originally looking at the centerforce dual friction, but someone else suggested that I try a Spec stage 4. I'd like it to survive for at least one pass at the track. I'm just dying to know what my combo will run! Thanks for the advice so far.

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steve'66
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posted 10-27-2004 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The CF DF will be able to handle the power, and your rpms won't exceed the 6800 rpm limit. Have fun and get ready for some new lower et's when you swap to a good converter/c-4 combo.

SteveW

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