|
Author
|
Topic: Police Chief to be fired for showing support of organized Drag Racing???
|
TurboGT
Gearhead Posts: 264
From: Hutchinson, Kansas
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-25-2004 03:09 PM
   
I don't get it. We have a problem with street racing, yet when the Police Chief shows his support of the local track, they want to can him... This is outrageous!  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6327474/ And their message board: 
http://www.kechiks.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55 ------------------
Mark Walton
'83 Mustang NHRA Stocker - it's alive!
'69 "off brand" NHRA SS/EA
IP: Logged |
BLstangin
Gearhead Posts: 817
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Apr 2002
|
posted 10-25-2004 03:55 PM
What a joke. I don't see any harm done? He's just supporting racing at a track instead of on the street. ------------------
1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 306 with 600 holley, Weiand Stealth intake, headers, mme custom roller cam, harland sharp roller rockers, kb pistons, 10.3:1 compression ratio, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, lakewood bellhousing, 4-speed toploader, and 2.79 open 8" rear. Soon to be 9" 3.50 trac-lok
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans
IP: Logged |
steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9489
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
|
posted 10-25-2004 04:57 PM
That does stink.We should get the 'Top The Cops' program involved to educate that Mayor. Several communities around the country are involved with this program. They all race their squad cars against High School kids at NHRA tracks. It's a good program, and teaches them (H.S. kids) to "take it to the track".  SteveW
IP: Logged |
Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 20708
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
|
posted 10-25-2004 05:08 PM
I'm not sure why some people don't get it ?
It's better to have these young people racing at a track, then on the streets. The members on the city counsel I've talked to tell they just what it stopped. No racing anywhere ever! 
------------------
SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
IP: Logged |
Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1890
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
|
posted 10-25-2004 05:26 PM
They arn't gonna stop people from racing, so why not support them doing it where they arn't endangering other peoples lives.
IP: Logged |
MandarinaMustang
Gearhead Posts: 141
From: San Jose, Costa Rica
Registered: Jun 2002
|
posted 10-25-2004 06:00 PM
Like the article said, it's all about politics....what a JOKE!!!!!Alex
IP: Logged |
Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1890
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
|
posted 10-25-2004 06:11 PM
time to cause a rukus
IP: Logged |
Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
|
posted 10-25-2004 06:37 PM
That's utterly rediculous! Mark, is there anything that we can do via e-mail letter writing campain or phone calls? ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
IP: Logged |
TurboGT
Gearhead Posts: 264
From: Hutchinson, Kansas
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-25-2004 06:43 PM
quote:
time to cause a rukus
I knew I could count on you guys. City of Kechi directory:
http://www.kechiks.com/article_31.php Kechi City Council:
Council President Roger Mort - [email protected]
Twila Lathrom - [email protected]
Robert Jackson - [email protected]
Suzy McDonald - [email protected]
Kevin Opat - [email protected] I think these people could use a little "Drag Race Educational Material" in their inboxes. Thanks guys!
------------------
Mark Walton
'83 Mustang NHRA Stocker - it's alive!
'69 "off brand" NHRA SS/EA [This message has been edited by TurboGT (edited 10-25-2004).]
IP: Logged |
RogueS
Journeyman Posts: 72
From: Wichita, KS, USA
Registered: Oct 2004
|
posted 10-25-2004 08:04 PM
[This message has been edited by RogueS (edited 10-25-2004).]
IP: Logged |
johnny 4-speed
Gearhead Posts: 172
From: Larkspur, Ca. USA
Registered: Oct 2004
|
posted 10-25-2004 08:21 PM
On Wednesday nite drags at Sears Point, the high school class kids are sometimes lined up against local police officers and their squadcars, lights flashing, sirens blarring, they call it Top The Cops racing. If fact, our city council(Novato, CA.)financed the build up of a drag-only 71 Nova painted with our local cop car graphics, roof rack and all! The program was a hit and has been in existance for over 10 years. Go Get Em, Chief! JD------------------
65 Fairlane
289ci
Top loader
9-inch w./ 5.13's
27"x10.5 cheaters [This message has been edited by johnny 4-speed (edited 10-25-2004).]
IP: Logged |
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2124
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-25-2004 09:09 PM
Nowhere in the article does it say that the city council is against legal, organized drag racing. What they are against is the cheif using taxpayer's property without proper authorization. Call me the bad guy but they are absolutely correct in their stand. That was very poor judgement on the chief's part and he should stand up and say so. It's really no different than the chief taking anyone elses car without their permission and taking a run down the track. I'd be pissed too....
IP: Logged |
Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1553
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
|
posted 10-25-2004 09:14 PM
We need to email our support for the Chief to the county council members .... I'm sure if he gets enough support they will back down. This needs to be forwarded to every car board that we are all in contact with... [This message has been edited by Buster (edited 10-25-2004).]
IP: Logged |
bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1724
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 10-26-2004 01:29 AM
I think it was a very bold but risky decision for the Police Chief to participate in a dragrace without proper consent even if it was county sanctioned.
Everything these days is about being "politcally correct". The problem arose because most people that are actively involved in the govenments drive Volvos and live in a sheltered world of non-violence and a total disregard for anything that might be considered dangerous to society. It's up to each and everyone of us to get involved and to make it known that these types of "dangerous" activities are acceptable to a majority of the taxpayers and we won't stand by and let them take these things away from us and the kids that want to participate. ------------------
1966 Mustang Coupe: Custom glass hood and BIG scoop sits atop a 289 stroked to 331 c.i., Steel crank, rods and girdle, TFS alum. heads, Stealth 8020 intake, Xtreme 268 Solid Roller, Holley 750 HP, long tubes, 4speed, 9" 3.50 posi.
11.86 @ 116 mph (7.62 @ 93 mph)daily driver!
DanH [This message has been edited by bluestreek (edited 10-26-2004).]
IP: Logged |
Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1890
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
|
posted 10-26-2004 05:11 AM
where as other citys have "anit-street racing" plans and budgets, this city is going a little overboard.As cheif of police, who do you report to? I would figure as cheif he should have SOME say in what happens with the cars, and for what purposes he chooses fit (as in promoting racing at the track instead of on the street)
IP: Logged |
indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 2690
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
|
posted 10-26-2004 08:23 AM
As chief of police he reports to the Mayor, and is appointed/fired by the mayor. The job of Chief of police is 1/2 politics and 1/2 police work.
IP: Logged |
ZEATER
Gearhead Posts: 177
From: Mount Pleasant,IA,USA
Registered: Aug 2001
|
posted 10-26-2004 12:17 PM
As a city council member myself I can understand where the mayor is going. The cost of your average police car is very pricey. Drag racing a city owned vehicle where the insurance is voided is not a smart move without permission.Drag race his own car and put a sign that says police chief on it if he wants to take the risk. This is not an issue against drag racing just an issue against proper procedure. Let the sheriff race his car, he's elected not appointed. He can get away with it.
IP: Logged |
Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
|
posted 10-26-2004 12:47 PM
And how many mayors, council members, or other political employees, along with enforcement officers who have "company" cars use them for other than "official" business? I have seen it all my life all over the country. It's a perk of the job.
Give me a break!
This chief was working.
Does anyone really think that the car was abused anymore than it would have been during a high speed chase or sitting idling for 4 or 5 hours?  Andy Taylor of Mayberry would have lost his job after the first episode. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com [This message has been edited by Moneymaker (edited 10-26-2004).]
IP: Logged |
Marty Buth
Journeyman Posts: 67
From:
Registered: Jan 2001
|
posted 10-26-2004 03:06 PM
I agree totally with Alex on this one......that cop car probably felt like it was on vacation going ot the drag strip....compared to what it would see in a chase. If the community is behind him, the politicians better be, too!!Marty
IP: Logged |
F570rd
Journeyman Posts: 92
From: mpls.mn.hennipin
Registered: Oct 2004
|
posted 10-26-2004 03:21 PM
Andy Taylor losing his job.You folks are GDF
IP: Logged |
Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 20708
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
|
posted 10-26-2004 03:59 PM
I know first hand those cars are driven really hard almost the time. At all the car events in town you'll see cops either on bikes or cars. Cruising in and out of the events. And every year whent hey still had the the drag races during Hot August nights. You'd see at 2-6 cars or bikes being raced. The fans and racers all like it. Should we go back and fire all of them too. Come on guys this man did nothing wrong. Those cars are so abused on the job day after day. A few runs wouldn't even come close to what those guys do to the cars.
------------------
SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
IP: Logged |
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2124
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-26-2004 05:33 PM
It's hard for me to believe that most of you think this was OK! I know that elected officials and other municiple employees use vehicles for "unofficial" business but that would include things like picking the kids up from school or swinging by the grocery store or maybe even a trip to the mall/restaurant with the spouse or SO. That is not the same as putting themselves or the city at risk of liabillity by racing his squad car. Yes, those cars are run hard on the job but that's on the job. Sometimes it's necessary to chase down a criminal.As for showing kids the proper way and place to race, he failed misserably. What he told them was come out to the track and race in your momma's car without telling her what you're going to do with it. As you are all well aware, insurance doesn't cover crashes on a drag strip. I don't think the man should lose his job but I do think he should stand up and say "Hey folks, I was wrong." If someone on the council or the mayor told him it would be ok then they should step down. If he's been a chief for 20 + years he should have known that something like that requires an ok which there aint no way in the world he would have received. Too much liability. To me, it's just a matter of common sense.
IP: Logged |
Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1890
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
|
posted 10-26-2004 06:17 PM
If I were cheif i would have thought i had responsibility over the cars at my station, including using them for other purposes.69 Sportsroof, how many kids do you know that would borrow moms car and race it on the street?? I know quite a few. Insurance doesn't cover street racing anymore either (at least in these parts) And everyone here agrees that the penalty of job loss is far greater than any liability and or un-nessisary risk or damage inflicted at the races. If he was suspended a couple weeks without pay i doubt there would be much of an issue, it's the fact that a clean record serviceman of 22 years is about to/has been fired over something so insignificant [This message has been edited by Dubz (edited 10-26-2004).]
IP: Logged |
Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 20708
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
|
posted 10-26-2004 07:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 69 Sportsroof:
[B] I know that elected officials and other municiple employees use vehicles for "unofficial" business but that would include things like picking the kids up from school or swinging by the grocery store or maybe even a trip to the mall/restaurant with the spouse or SO. That is not the same as putting themselves or the city at risk of liabillity by racing his squad car. Yes, those cars are run hard on the job but that's on the job. Sometimes it's necessary to chase down a criminal.B]
Racing to lunch or dinner, seeing how fast they can drive on the freeway etc. These cars are pushed hard, like some poeple drive a rented car. I'm not saying he shouldn't have gotten the ok to this first. If the Mayor had a problem with him racing he should have handled it in house. I've seen these cars pushed to limits just to get off work in time.
------------------
SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
IP: Logged |
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2124
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-26-2004 08:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dubz:
If I were cheif i would have thought i had responsibility over the cars at my station, including using them for other purposes.69 Sportsroof, how many kids do you know that would borrow moms car and race it on the street?? I know quite a few. Insurance doesn't cover street racing anymore either (at least in these parts) And everyone here agrees that the penalty of job loss is far greater than any liability and or un-nessisary risk or damage inflicted at the races. If he was suspended a couple weeks without pay i doubt there would be much of an issue, it's the fact that a clean record serviceman of 22 years is about to/has been fired over something so insignificant
A chief is responsible for the vehicles in his department which includes knowing what he can and cant do with them. I work for the telephone company and they would can my ass if they found out I had been racing with it. There is no justification for what he did. Kids race their mom's cars all the time but they know its wrong - just like you know it's wrong. And if their mom knew what they were doing and didn't scold them for doing so and stop them from using the car then she's an idiot. I do not agree that him being fired is a greater penalty than the liabillity he could have caused the city. Heck, folks are sueing everybody for everything and winning. I do think that they should consider his record before they fire him including busting him down from his chief's position. The article doesn't say he is going to be fired. This is not an isignificant matter.
IP: Logged |
n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2694
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
|
posted 10-26-2004 09:07 PM
69 Sportsroof...He was at a POLICE sponsored event that was trying to encourage kids to take their racing to the track. There were plenty of other officers there racing (their own) vehicles. The D.A.R.E. car was there.... it was a big 'police' sponsored thing. While everything is rolling along, the chief decides to run the Police Packaged pursuit Camaro in the street bracket class. It probably seemed like a harmless, fun thing to do at the time. He had NO ILL INTENT and didn't profit from the city's car in any way. He was just out there having a little fun while promoting racing in a safe and legal manner. Did he possibly make a bad judgement call???? Maybe. Is it something that a 22 year police chief with a spotless record should lose his job over???? Definitely not! Go read the town forum that TurboGT posted earlier to learn more... http://www.kechiks.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55 I think some people's pants are a bit too tight...... ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?220
IP: Logged |
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2124
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-26-2004 09:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Racing to lunch or dinner, seeing how fast they can drive on the freeway etc. These cars are pushed hard, like some poeple drive a rented car. I'm not saying he shouldn't have gotten the ok to this first. If the Mayor had a problem with him racing he should have handled it in house.I've seen these cars pushed to limits just to get off work in time.
You can call it racing to lunch or to get home or even to get to work on time but the fact remains that that is normal driving. Look, I understand what he was trying to do but it boils down to good intentions gone bad.
IP: Logged |
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2124
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-26-2004 09:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by n2oMike:
69 Sportsroof...He was at a POLICE sponsored event...There were plenty of other officers there racing (their own) vehicles. The D.A.R.E. car was there.... it was a big 'police' sponsored thing. the chief decides to run the Police Packaged pursuit Camaro in the street bracket class. He had NO ILL INTENT... out there having a little fun while promoting racing in a safe and legal manner. Did he possibly make a bad judgement call???? Maybe. Is it something that a 22 year police chief ... should lose his job over???? Definitely not! Go read the town forum that TurboGT posted earlier to learn more... I think some people's pants are a bit too tight......
If the telephone company I work for sponsors a drag race and I run my work truck down the strip without permission I'd get fired. If I raced my own car it would be ok. The D.A.R.E. truck was there but it never ran the track. Didn't know it was a camaro. No harm there... I dont think there was any ill intent but he could have supported safe and legal racing by NOT using the cities pursuit car. He definately used poor judgement. I've already said that I dont think he should be fired but you have to do something. I've been trolling the message board and it's more of the same that I'm reading here. He's getting an awful lot of support from the same people that would be screaming to have him fired if he would have damaged that car or even if the guy in the lane next to him had crashed. "he shouldn't have been racing...", blah, blah, blah... Then you would have seen who had the tight pants...
[This message has been edited by 69 Sportsroof (edited 10-26-2004).]
IP: Logged |
ZEATER
Gearhead Posts: 177
From: Mount Pleasant,IA,USA
Registered: Aug 2001
|
posted 10-26-2004 10:18 PM
You guys are missing my point. It's not the fact of how it was run with me, It's the fact it is uninsured when used on a drag strip. It is not uninsured on high speed pursuits or taking on other personal use.We all know our cars are uninsured at a drag strip. The difference is the chief does not own the car, the city tax payers do. If you are risking a 25 to 30 thousand dollar vehicle with no insurance that you do not own you should ask. Seems pretty simple to me.
IP: Logged |
Big D
Gearhead Posts: 5480
From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
|
posted 10-26-2004 10:29 PM
We should start an Email Campaign for him.. Sending messages to the council in support for the Chief..It's amazing how much bias you run into when you try to Orgainize a Drag Racing Event.. There is always going to be a segment of society that believes it's nothing but outlaws wanting to race their HOT RODS,, and put other's lives in DANGER.. Unfortunately,, people with those views are usually older and have a substancial voice in a communittee,, And they don't like ME.. Or,, maybe we should start a "Take a City Official To The Track" Movement.. Honestly most of these individuals have never experienced anything more exhilarating than Continental,, Caddy or possibly their riding lawn mower.. But they've HEARD it was BAD.. Steve W - Put a passenger seat in the Dartster before you take one for a ride.. 
------------------
Don
6T6 Fastback
331 STROKER, T-5
Royal Blue Metallic w/Red-Blue Ghost Flames
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/BigD.html
IP: Logged |
Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 20708
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
|
posted 10-27-2004 02:07 AM
quote:
Originally posted by 69 Sportsroof:
You can call it racing to lunch or to get home or even to get to work on time but the fact remains that that is normal driving.Look, I understand what he was trying to do but it boils down to good intentions gone bad.
I'm talking about these guys going well over the speed limit in city cars. I've seen many doing over 100mph on the freeway. If you wreck a city car while speeding and your not on a call. That'll cost the city a lot more then $25,000-$30,000. I'm not picking on you, because you make some good points.
------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics [This message has been edited by Fastymz (edited 10-27-2004).]
IP: Logged |
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2124
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-27-2004 11:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
I'm talking about these guys going well over the speed limit in city cars. I've seen many doing over 100mph on the freeway. If you wreck a city car while speeding and your not on a call. That'll cost the city a lot more then $25,000-$30,000. I'm not picking on you, because I you make a good point.
You're right. If they crash that car while speeding unecessarily then they will more than likely lose their job and the city will get sued if they hit someone. Councilman Goofy on the message board has stated over and over that he nor anyone else on the council is against the chief participating in drag racing in his own vehicle. I'll admit that it was probably cool to see the pursuit car break 100 mph on the strip but it was wrong for him to do it. Of course he could have been counting on the council buying in on the saying "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to get permission"... I'm happy that everybody who has had a strong opinion about this has been able to discuss it on this forum without calling people names. I think this group sets the standard for that.
IP: Logged |
Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
|
posted 10-27-2004 12:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by F570rd:
Andy Taylor losing his job.You folks are GDF
And......don't get me started on Starsky and Hutch, or the Dukes of Hazzard, or Chips, or.......... ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
IP: Logged |
TurboGT
Gearhead Posts: 264
From: Hutchinson, Kansas
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-28-2004 07:19 AM
Great responses. I loved the Andy Taylor analogy, Alex. ROFL!Well, the council had an "executive session" last night to decide the fate of Police Chief Morland. Here is the outcome: 1) 15 days unpaid suspension
2) 10% pay cut
3) 120 days of probation when he returns (whatever that means)
4) Reports directly to the Mayor AND City Council from now on (I'm not sure of the prior arrangement) Is this a fair sentence for his "crime"? Seems a little over the top to me, but at least he kept his job. ------------------
Mark Walton
'83 Mustang NHRA Stocker - it's alive!
'69 "off brand" NHRA SS/EA [This message has been edited by TurboGT (edited 10-28-2004).]
IP: Logged |
69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 2124
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-28-2004 07:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TurboGT:
but at least he kept his job.
IP: Logged |
bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1724
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 10-28-2004 09:01 AM
10% cut in pay.. Homey don't think so!! I would have turned in my resignation.------------------
1966 Mustang Coupe: Custom glass hood and BIG scoop sits atop a 289 stroked to 331 c.i., Steel crank, rods and girdle, TFS alum. heads, Stealth 8020 intake, Xtreme 268 Solid Roller, Holley 750 HP, long tubes, 4speed, 9" 3.50 posi.
11.86 @ 116 mph (7.62 @ 93 mph)daily driver!
DanH
IP: Logged |
Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
|
posted 10-28-2004 10:26 AM
The pay cut wasn't fair.
Let's see what happens the next time there is some hanus crime and the police response is a little "slow". ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
IP: Logged |
Dynoram
Journeyman Posts: 51
From: ford country
Registered: May 2003
|
posted 10-28-2004 12:55 PM
My first impression was that this was all about money. I have heard of officers getting screwed out of pensions like this before. Now with the verdict at hand i guess its safe to draw a conclusion.
IP: Logged |
Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1890
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
|
posted 10-28-2004 02:25 PM
pay cut wasn't really fair, but i agree, at least he still has his job
IP: Logged |
TomP
Gearhead Posts: 6007
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
|
posted 10-29-2004 01:44 PM
He could have lost control at 300mph and killed all those kids walking across the track! Oh my! I think it's a commendable thing, the cop car may be owned by the city but he has to have some control over it's use. This isn't real abuse, it wasn't a dangerous thing. What if... he drove it during a snowstorm? What if... a bad guy didn't want to stop for him on the highway?
IP: Logged |
johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6061
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 10-29-2004 02:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Let's see what happens the next time there is some hanus crime and the police response is a little "slow".
His patrol car is a crapmaro, so the response time will be slow regardless
------------------
JOHN
65 FASTBACK 2+2.....14.44 @ 107mph 1/4
87 TAURUS WAGON
03 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4 SHORT BOX
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
M&M #1710
65 FASTBACK
2003 F150 XLT SUPER CREW 4X4
IP: Logged |
Big D
Gearhead Posts: 5480
From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
|
posted 10-29-2004 05:43 PM
Their decision is another,, BOGUS Cover Your A$$ Decision made by a UPPER MANAGEMENT Committee.. I have been involved in MIDDLE management most of my adult life.. It always amazes me how these individuals can pass judgement that effects a subbordanates livelyhood with one breath,, while at the same time they are negotiating UMBRELLA Clauses,, 3-5 YEAR Dismisal Clauses that automatically renew every year(meaning if they are FIRED,, they would get paid their their salary times length of contract (3-5 years).. This is Proper compensation,, to assure their financial future is stable.. So,, when they come down with these,, HE'S LUCKY TO HAVE HIS JOB,, BS DESICIONS.. I think you can tell what I think about what they did.. 1 more thing.. The majority of the time anymore,, when you are in MIDDLE Management,, such as the chief,, you have NO Representation or avenues of recourse,, because those same people made sure there weren't any avenues.. And,, you walk out the door after they laid down the law,, thinking,, Gosh,, I'm Lucky To Have This Job.. 
------------------
Don
6T6 Fastback
331 STROKER, T-5
Royal Blue Metallic w/Red-Blue Ghost Flames
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/BigD.html
IP: Logged |
69_sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 223
From: Camino Calif (yeah, it does snow here)
Registered: Aug 2000
|
posted 10-30-2004 04:22 PM
this 69_sportsroof doesn't agree with the other one....Jay------------------
ALL THROTTLE NO BOTTLE !
.....proudly keeping the neighbors mad for over 30 years
Run what ya brung, and hope like hell ya brung enough
69 sportsroof(351 C)
65 Ranchero(200)now 351W
72 Ln 700 (361)
IP: Logged |
TomP
Gearhead Posts: 6007
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
|
posted 11-05-2004 06:41 PM
I found this shot to show that fuzz cars have been run in drag racing events. No word on whether the OPP was disbanded because of this. http://www.canadianfasteststreetcarshootout.com/2opp.jpg
IP: Logged |
Mustangsandmore Forums
