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Topic: Mini Starters with 164 Flexplate
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mainer
Gearhead Posts: 148
From: Bryant Pond, Maine
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 09-20-2004 09:57 AM
   
My new ford ministarter just shreded it's teeth. I just learned that they don't work with the larger 164 tooth flexplate. Summit lists two Powermaster ministarters, one with 3/8 offset, the other with 3/4 offset. Anyone know which or whether they will work with the larger flexplate?thanks,
Don ------------------
68 Mustang Coupe
New engine
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6098
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 09-20-2004 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by mainer:
My new ford ministarter just shreded it's teeth. I just learned that they don't work with the larger 164 tooth flexplate.
Must be a different number starter than the one I've been running for the last 9 yrs.  I've been using it with a 164 tooth flexplate ever since I got it and never had any problems with it.
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 09-20-2004 07:41 PM
mine has been working for 6 years and it is a stock junkyard one!! $25------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-302-7.33 @92mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://community.prestage.com/Member+Pages/789.aspx
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1035
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 09-20-2004 08:13 PM
Yeah, I'm running a powermaster too. Works fine with 164 tooth flex plate. I didn't know there was supposed to be a different one.------------------
Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 408C 4V, best time to date is 10.50 best MPH 127
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bifs66
Gearhead Posts: 250
From: Maryland
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 09-20-2004 10:13 PM
The FMS catalog specifically states that SBF mini-starter (#M-11000-B50) will not fit "164-tooth manual transmission". However, it says nothing about 164-tooth flexplates.------------------
Bernie Frank
66 Fastback restomod (12.8 @ 112mph)
85 GT (preserved)
2000 SVT CONTOUR
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sodi
Gearhead Posts: 197
From: Kenosha Wi. USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 09-26-2004 11:35 AM
So does anyone have any pt # for a 164 tooth flywheel 70 Mach 4 sp. mini-starter ??
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Dave_C
Gearhead Posts: 968
From: Gadsden, Al
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 09-26-2004 12:46 PM
The offsets and Powermaster starters:289-351W/C Auto & 5-speed M/T (3/4? Offset)
Powermaster part#
9162 Ford type mini-starter 160ft lb (as far as I know this *IS* a Ford starter just sold by Powermaster, so no core charge)
9603 Nippondesno type 180 ft lb
9503 Nippondenso type 200 ft lb 289-351W/C 3 & 4-speed M/T (3/8? Offset)
9172 Ford type 160 ft lb
9604 Nippondenso type 180 ft lb
9504 Nippondenso type 200 ft lb I like the Nippondesno type starter just for the fact that the nose piece is clockabble to many different positions to clear headers, steering, chassis, etc. Costs a bit more, but worth it. I had a Powermaster 9603 on my 383W in my 69. I had a 164 tooth flexplate, used both stock and aftermarket. Worked great. I also have an identical one made by CVR on my 557 bbf. Works great as well. No problems. Powermaster's site, with the starters :
http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/racing.html Later,
David Cole ------------------
557 BBF Powered, alcohol injected rear engine dragster. 4.90 @ 143 1/8 mile. 1.09 60'. I've got to be crazy to drive this thing. [This message has been edited by Dave_C (edited 09-26-2004).]
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 09-27-2004 06:46 PM
The only difficulty we have ever experianced with mini 164 starter/flexplates was in conjunction with an "aftermarket" SFI flexplate.
Twice we had interferance issues when using FoMoCo or FRPP starters and SFI trans company supplied flex plates.
Replaced the unit with standard FoMoCo or Reactor, and problems went away.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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