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Rare67
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posted 09-16-2004 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rare67   Click Here to Email Rare67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In efforts to make my car a bit more
streetable, I'm considering going to a smaller cam (Comp 270s), as well as a smaller carb.

I currently have a Holley 700DP with a milled choke tower, and 4 corner idle which runs good. (6"-7" of vacuum at idle), but doesn't pull hard when the secondaries open.

I'm thinking a smaller carb would help in the throttle response and acceleration area and a 4 hole carb spacer would help with velocity also.

600DP or 650DP, and whats your reasoning for your selection?

Thanks
Paul


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Fastymz
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posted 09-16-2004 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul, I'd start with jetting down the 700 alittle and using a 1" 4hole spacer with it.

You say the car runs good but does pull hard when secondarys open. Does it pull good until they open, and does it pull good after the RPM's get alittle higher ?

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capri man
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posted 09-16-2004 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im a long way from an expert but here is my humble theory. with that big of a duration helping make the low vacuum readings, the signal (or air speed ) going into the engine is reletivly low. if the spacer dont cure it i would go with the 600 dp. the reason being that the butterflys on the 600 are smaller than on the 650. 650-750 are the same size. the smaller holes will increase your signal (speed) of the air going into the engine. i would guess that you might also have a little stumble when you floor it from a low rpm.
did any of this make any sence?? just my opinion, i could be wrong. good luck

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Rare67
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posted 09-16-2004 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rare67   Click Here to Email Rare67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I jet down it'll lean out...tried that.

Let me clarify a bit. From a stop, it will pull hard through the gears.

From cruise speed...say 40-50mph, if I floor it, or downshift and floor it, it doesn't pull hard...which seems strange because its in the powerband at that point.

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Rare67
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posted 09-16-2004 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rare67   Click Here to Email Rare67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by capri man:
if the spacer dont cure it i would go with the 600 dp...the smaller holes will increase your signal (speed) of the air going into the engine.

This is what I'm thinking also. Get that velocity up a bit.

Paul

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capri man
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posted 09-16-2004 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well then, heck i aint got a clue!!!!

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posted 09-16-2004 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rare67:
If I jet down it'll lean out...tried that.

Let me clarify a bit. From a stop, it will pull hard through the gears.

From cruise speed...say 40-50mph, if I floor it, or downshift and floor it, it doesn't pull hard...which seems strange because its in the powerband at that point.

Paul


That would do more with your cam and gear selection in my opinion.
At 40-50mph in fourth what are at about 2500rpm or so ? With that cam I'd think once you get into the 3000-3500 range it'll start pulling better.

I'd start with a four spacer, and work from there.

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