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Rare67
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From: Jefferson. MD
Registered: Mar 2004

posted 09-10-2004 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rare67   Click Here to Email Rare67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have these pistons, and I'm getting conflicting reports as to what they do for compression.

An old TRW catalog shows the dome to be 10.4cc.

In my 0 decked 289 with Dart II Windsor Sr. heads milled to 60cc it comes out to about 11.3:1 compression. This was my impression when the engine was built years ago.

Now I have two conflicting reports.

Sources say that the deep valve pockets in front of the dome is 8.64cc, offseting the dome cc, leaving a total of 1.76cc.

This puts my compression at about 9.9:1.

Another source indicates that the valve pockets completely offset the dome volume giving no compression increase at all, allowing larger valves with no compression drop.

This puts my compression at about 9.7:1

So whats the final word on these pistons?
Could they really not increase the compression as we thought?

Does someone have one that they could check the dome cc against the valve pocket cc?

Paul

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JCQuinn@work
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From: Lakewood, CO, USA
Registered: Jun 2001

posted 09-10-2004 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What your engine builder would do is to put the piston down 1" in the cylinder, seal the perimeter of the piston/wall interface with petroleum jelly. Put a flat plate with a small hole in it over the cylinder, again sealed with petroleum jelly. Then fill the area above the piston with a fluid from a burette. Calculate the area of a cylinder using your bore and 1 inch for the dimensions.

The difference between the cylinder calculation and the cylinder fill is your dome volume. Use the same equipment to measure your combustion chamber volume. Get the gasket volumn from the gasket maker and measure the distance between your piston at TDC and the block deck.

Using these accurate measurements is the only way to know what your compression is. Anything else is just a guess and could be a point or more off.

John

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mizry
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From: ca
Registered: Sep 2004

posted 09-11-2004 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mizry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I run the same piston and crank. Pistons are untouch .001-.002 out the hole, 40cc gasket, milled windsor JR heads 58cc after minor combustion chamber work to clear the domes. machine shop worked out somthin like 11.3 or 11.4 to 1. I have no clearance between the dome and head and even less between the dome and my standard ngk race plug. I wanted 12.5 but I guess it just doesnt happen to easy with a 289.

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