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thumpin cat
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posted 06-15-2004 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thumpin cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going to do a ground strap from the engine block to the frame and i wanted to know if 8 gauge wire will be ok to use?

Please let me know thanks.

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lawless
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posted 06-15-2004 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lawless   Click Here to Email lawless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would use 4 guage minimum and I would run two straps: One from the block to the frame and one from the block to the firewall.

Chris

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Billy Mac
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posted 06-15-2004 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Mac   Click Here to Email Billy Mac     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently read a tech update from MSD.....they recommend (if you are running aluminum heads) to have a ground wire/strap off of EACH head to the frame.....YES, they do mention that that might sound like over-kill, but sometimes a little over-kill can make a BIG difference.

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steve'66
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posted 06-15-2004 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Billy,

They recomend that because it is possible for the heads to be insulated from the block. The heads have to ground the plugs so a good ground wire to each head makes sense.

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bluestreek
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posted 06-15-2004 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard just the opposite. Not good to ground just thru alum. heads.

Anyway, I run mine off one 4 guage flatwound strap to a top bellhousing bolt and it always cranks good and I run a big electric fan, MSD-6D+, and have battery in the trunk. 2 MONSTER straps won't hurt though.

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lawless
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posted 06-16-2004 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lawless   Click Here to Email lawless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by steve'66:
Billy,

They recomend that because it is possible for the heads to be insulated from the block. The heads have to ground the plugs so a good ground wire to each head makes sense.

SteveW


It is also very possible that even iron heads be isolated from the block... or have high resistance which casuses a voltage drop.

Typically head gaskets are made of a non-conductive material, so that means that the head bolts or the water in the cooling system is the negative conducter completing the circuit to the battery ground. (Vehicles are isolated from earth ground by the tires)

When head bolts pass through a water jacket, a builder typically puts some sort of sealant on the threads. This interferes with the conductivity of the head bolt. All of the other head bolts are typically "oiled" to get accurate torque measurements. The oil can interfere with the conductivity. So having some sort of strap between the head and the block does make sense in certain situations.

In a perfect world, every circuit in a car would be "grounded" to one point on the block to ensure that there is a low resistance path.

I'll explain a little bit more later... but this is all simple ohms law stuff.

Chris

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