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Topic: Car pulls to the right
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-25-2004 01:58 AM
   
I have not floored the car yet from a stop. But I have got it 4000 rpm a few times. From a rolling or when it hits second gear it pulls to the passanger side.What should I do to help correct it. I still have air shocks both sides right now don't have any air in them. If I put some air in the passanger side shock would that help ? Also a side not the new motor seems to get to 4000 rpm real fast. Not like the old slug did. 
What makes a motor rev to a given RPM faster, lighter parts, better flowing, more compression, or all the above. ------------------
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1035
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 05-25-2004 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
What makes a motor rev to a given RPM faster, lighter parts, better flowing, more compression, or all the above.
More power! ARRRR ARRRR ARRRR! 
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 2060
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 05-25-2004 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
I have not floored the car yet from a stop. But I have got it 4000 rpm a few times. From a rolling or when it hits second gear it pulls to the passanger side.What should I do to help correct it. I still have air shocks both sides right now don't have any air in them. If I put some air in the passanger side shock would that help ? Also a side not the new motor seems to get to 4000 rpm real fast. Not like the old slug did.
What makes a motor rev to a given RPM faster, lighter parts, better flowing, more compression, or all the above.
SCOOP,
The reason your car doesn't act the same is because it has a new engine with more power!! I'd say if your old engine had made more power then the car would of pulled to the side with it.... It's a matter of chasing the weakest link. Strengthen one spot and get introduced to a different 'weakness'. Yeah, stiffen up the right shock and see what effect that makes. All of the above is also correct. An additional factor would be if you had the rotating assembly balanced (I think you did, right?), the type of cam will affect the spin up rate, the type/size carb, etc. they all would help it spin up faster as well. My 2 cents,
Ryan
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bud4660
Gearhead Posts: 513
From: Mesquite, Tx. M&M #2925
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 05-25-2004 09:14 AM
Hey Scoop. Does it have a limited slip in it. Or the one wheel wonder? The crown on the road can cause the rear to go that way too. Move to the left side of the street and try it. Put a spool in it and it will go straight...
And your not suppose to run the air shocks with no air in them. Put 25 psi anyway.
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 05-25-2004 12:54 PM
I'm sure the shocks both have at least 10-20psi in them now. I was running them at 40psi driverside and 65 passangers side. But with the new real leafs and the clamps I don't need the shocks to hold up the rear anymore. Ben,  more power GOOD Ryan, the shop said they balanced the motor. I know more power and a well balanced motor will spin better. I guess I was more asking do different cams, flow rate of heads, compression ratio , if forged pistons are lighter will that effect it too ?
Or is more about a well built motor thats balanced ? I understand enough to get myself in trouble.  I do have a traclok in it now, that does spin both tires the same. ------------------
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 535
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 05-25-2004 01:47 PM
Hey Ron,what is actually pulling?The front end or is the back end kicking out?if the front end is pulling when you jump on it we may be missing what he asked.it might be a frontend problem------------------
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 05-25-2004 01:58 PM
The rear is kicking out, the front gets real light, but doesn't pull either way.------------------
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bud4660
Gearhead Posts: 513
From: Mesquite, Tx. M&M #2925
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 05-25-2004 03:55 PM
I got it. The car goes to the right because all the weight is on the drivers side...Or maybe the front is going to the left making you think the rear is going to the right. I know it wants to be a dirt track car.... It runs dont worry about it...Its normal....lol When you coming down to put my scoop on anyway?? lol
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Fstln69
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From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 05-25-2004 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
The rear is kicking out, the front gets real light, but doesn't pull either way.
HEY RON!! WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF HORSEPOWER!!!!! ------------------
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steve'66
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From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-25-2004 04:23 PM
Ron,Mine does that too. When you get those slicks on there it'll go straight. SteveW
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Fastymz
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posted 05-25-2004 05:56 PM
Thanks guys I'll just drive it. So no way to help it out. ------------------
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steve'66
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posted 05-25-2004 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
So no way to help it out.
Yeah, more traction or less power. How about a two barrel carb? SteveW
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Fastymz
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posted 05-25-2004 06:17 PM
NO to less power Now more traction makes a lot of sense. Bud Texas what part ?
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Fstln69
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From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 05-25-2004 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by steve'66:
Yeah, more traction or less power. How about a two barrel carb? SteveW
Steve whats Ron gonna do when he gets a REAL carb on that motor???????
Dennis ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-25-2004 07:26 PM
UGH! POWER GOOD!!!
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-25-2004 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Fstln69:
Steve whats Ron gonna do when he gets a REAL carb on that motor???????
Dennis
Buy lots of rear tires I can't wait to get it to the track. ------------------
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bud4660
Gearhead Posts: 513
From: Mesquite, Tx. M&M #2925
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 05-25-2004 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
NO to less power Now more traction makes a lot of sense. Bud Texas what part ?
Hey Scoop. Mesquite is just east of Dallas. Cant miss it. We have a Rodeo..... lol
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steve'66
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posted 05-25-2004 11:06 PM
Bud,Reno has a Rodeo this year too.  SteveW
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Fastymz
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posted 05-26-2004 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by steve'66:
Bud,Reno has a Rodeo this year too. SteveW
Yeah we have the Gay Rodeo here in Reno 
You going to be in it again this year Steve. Bud I've been to Dallas a few times. That was only 22 years ago. ------------------
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indyphil
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From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 05-26-2004 07:22 AM
Scoop
Do you have subframe connectors?
Does anyone think that stiffening the car might keep it straight?I was just wondering because my car twists pretty bad when I get on it, and I have an export brace and an MC bar. I have been considering subframe connectors ------------------
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V8 Thumper
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From: Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 05-26-2004 08:59 AM
Phil, not having launched my car on slicks, I can't give you hard data... only 'blacktop dyno' results I subframe connected my car before I pulled the stock A-code 289 out, and it made a difference with only 200+ hp/tq on tap. Now, with roughly double that power, it stays structurally square. The rollbar I installed a few months back helped even further. While doing a burnout, I have the same 'wandering' problem as Ron does, but it's nothing a good set of adjustable shocks can't resolve (currently running KYB)
Competition Engineering Slide-a-Link traction bars help a bunch too... I can adjust preload (side to side) to compensate for the violent torque transfer of sidesteping the clutch ------------------
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bud4660
Gearhead Posts: 513
From: Mesquite, Tx. M&M #2925
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 05-26-2004 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Yeah we have the Gay Rodeo here in Reno
You going to be in it again this year Steve. Bud I've been to Dallas a few times. That was only 22 years ago.
LOL...Mesquite is only on the map because of the rodeo arena. That and the Sonic is the only thing here...
Scoop you need to get out more. 22 years. It hasnt changed much. More freeways and traffic.
The subframes will help some. A roll bar that ties all of it together will too. A spool and slicks will fix it right up...lol
Oh yeah, stick some 4:56 gears in there too.... You dont drive on the freeway much do you??? lol
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steve'66
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posted 05-26-2004 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Yeah we have the Gay Rodeo here in Reno
You going to be in it again this year Steve.
Sure, You gonna be my date again Ron? At the Reno rodeo they don't say "ride that sucker"? SteveW
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bud4660
Gearhead Posts: 513
From: Mesquite, Tx. M&M #2925
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 05-26-2004 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by steve'66:
Sure,You gonna be my date again Ron? At the Reno rodeo they don't say "ride that sucker"? SteveW
Steve: Is that where they say "you want to ride this big boy"? lol
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Scott (69Mach)
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From: Walnut Creek, CA USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-26-2004 11:51 AM
I have TCP subs and center section, along with the tower brace kit. It launches dead straight every time.
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Rustang
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From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-26-2004 01:05 PM
My rusted out '67 ran 11-teens with no steenkin' frame connectors, rollbar, etc.. I didn't even have the shock tower braces in. I'd look for broken springs(rear or front), or other obvious suspension problems. Otherwise I'd load up the air in that right rear air shock and see what happens. Or else you could just turn left when you bang second gear
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