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Topic: Edelbrock Victor series water pumps
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 4377 From: Arizona Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 05-11-2004 03:36 PM
They don't give them things away Are they worth the money, in that they increase cooling efficency? ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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kcode Gearhead Posts: 3029 From: alvaton,ky,usa Suburb of Bowling Green, M&M #79, MCA #29208 Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-12-2004 01:29 PM
Go with a Milodon standard, alot less $$ than Ebrocks. No problem on the 347 for cooling.Mike
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bluestreek Gearhead Posts: 1724 From: Athens,GA Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 05-12-2004 05:38 PM
I used a Flowcooler #1681 highflow alum. on my 331. $79 new. It must work pretty good. I'm using a stock size alum. rad with a single fan and it never gets over 180. First time I hit 6000 rpms it blew my heater coil though!!------------------ 1966 Mustang Coupe: Custom glass hood and BIG scoop sits atop a 289 stroked to 331 c.i., Steel crank, rods and girdle, TFS alum. heads, Stealth 8020 intake, Xtreme 268 Solid Roller, Holley 750 HP, long tubes, 4speed, 9" 3.50 posi. 11.86 @ 116 mph (7.62 @ 93 mph)daily driver! DanH
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mustang68mustangs Gearhead Posts: 454 From: pittsburgh,pa.usa Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 05-13-2004 12:15 AM
I think Dick's stuff is overpriced.Your paying for the name IMO.
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 18703 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-13-2004 01:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by mustang68mustangs: .Your paying for the name IMO.
Thats what more then a few people have told me too. Flowcooler or Milodon seem like the same pump to me. What side are your hoses on ? I might have one for you to try.
------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
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matt d Journeyman Posts: 53 From: Coventry, CT USA Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 05-13-2004 12:21 PM
I used to have a Milodon but it leaked after a couple of years so now I have an Edelbrock. I noticed no difference in cooling ability, but it didn't ever overheat with either one.The Edelbrock does use pipe-thread fittings for the heater and bypass tube connections. What is very nice about that is that if you are not using a heater, you can just plug one of the connections and avoid the heater bypass hose from the manifold to the water pump....one less hose to fail. Also, the quality of the impeller on the Edelbrock is light years ahead of the Milodon. The Milodon was a sloppy tolerance welded sheetmetal paddle wheel, while the edelbrock was a tight tolerace cast shape that looked more like a centrifugal supercharer's impeller. I would expect it to flow better in a high demand cooling situation.
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bluestreek Gearhead Posts: 1724 From: Athens,GA Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 05-13-2004 12:34 PM
If you use a high volume pump with a heater hooked up, make sure you put a restrictor in the inlet hose. They move a lot of coolant at high rpms!! Some people use underdrive pulleys to free up some power when they use a high flow pump, but it seems like that would be the same as using regular pump. I may try it one day just to see if there is a difference.------------------ 1966 Mustang Coupe: Custom glass hood and BIG scoop sits atop a 289 stroked to 331 c.i., Steel crank, rods and girdle, TFS alum. heads, Stealth 8020 intake, Xtreme 268 Solid Roller, Holley 750 HP, long tubes, 4speed, 9" 3.50 posi. 11.86 @ 116 mph (7.62 @ 93 mph)daily driver! DanH
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Ryan Wilke Gearhead Posts: 2060 From: Stanton, Michigan 49707 Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 05-13-2004 12:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by matt d: ....The Edelbrock does use pipe-thread fittings for the heater and bypass tube connections. What is very nice about that is that if you are not using a heater, you can just plug one of the connections and avoid the heater bypass hose from the manifold to the water pump....one less hose to fail.
If you don't want to run a heater, then I can agree to plug the heater hose supply outlet on the water pump and the return inlet at the intake. Since my water pump didn't have a threaded opening, I installed a NAPA 3/4" rubber expansion plug (tightens up with the turn of a center nut on a stud) to plug off the non-threaded outlet. I think you may be asking for potential trouble if you eliminate the bypass hose between the intake and the H20 pump if you're also using a thermostat. If no thermostat, then no problem. Ryan
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 4377 From: Arizona Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 05-13-2004 05:17 PM
I don't need no steenkin' heater Seriously guys, thanks for all the great responses ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 18703 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-13-2004 05:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by V8 Thumper: I don't need no steenkin' heater Seriously guys, thanks for all the great responses
It snowed here on tuesday,that why I leave my heater hooked up. Other wise the whole unit would on the shelf, less weight. ------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
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matt d Journeyman Posts: 53 From: Coventry, CT USA Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 05-13-2004 08:45 PM
I agree. Do not plug the small bypass hose from the thermostat housing to the pump....that would be bad. But, if you don't have a heater then the second bypass hose is redundant and is better off plugged IMO.
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