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V8 Thumper
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posted 05-11-2004 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They don't give them things away

Are they worth the money, in that they increase cooling efficency?

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kcode
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posted 05-12-2004 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go with a Milodon standard, alot less $$ than Ebrocks. No problem on the 347 for cooling.

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bluestreek
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posted 05-12-2004 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used a Flowcooler #1681 highflow alum. on my 331. $79 new. It must work pretty good. I'm using a stock size alum. rad with a single fan and it never gets over 180. First time I hit 6000 rpms it blew my heater coil though!!

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mustang68mustangs
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posted 05-13-2004 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustang68mustangs   Click Here to Email mustang68mustangs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Dick's stuff is overpriced.Your paying for the name IMO.

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Fastymz
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posted 05-13-2004 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mustang68mustangs:
.Your paying for the name IMO.

Thats what more then a few people have told me too.
Flowcooler or Milodon seem like the same pump to me.

What side are your hoses on ? I might have one for you to try.

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SCOOP

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matt d
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posted 05-13-2004 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matt d     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to have a Milodon but it leaked after a couple of years so now I have an Edelbrock. I noticed no difference in cooling ability, but it didn't ever overheat with either one.

The Edelbrock does use pipe-thread fittings for the heater and bypass tube connections. What is very nice about that is that if you are not using a heater, you can just plug one of the connections and avoid the heater bypass hose from the manifold to the water pump....one less hose to fail.

Also, the quality of the impeller on the Edelbrock is light years ahead of the Milodon. The Milodon was a sloppy tolerance welded sheetmetal paddle wheel, while the edelbrock was a tight tolerace cast shape that looked more like a centrifugal supercharer's impeller. I would expect it to flow better in a high demand cooling situation.

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bluestreek
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posted 05-13-2004 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you use a high volume pump with a heater hooked up, make sure you put a restrictor in the inlet hose. They move a lot of coolant at high rpms!! Some people use underdrive pulleys to free up some power when they use a high flow pump, but it seems like that would be the same as using regular pump. I may try it one day just to see if there is a difference.

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 05-13-2004 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matt d:
....The Edelbrock does use pipe-thread fittings for the heater and bypass tube connections. What is very nice about that is that if you are not using a heater, you can just plug one of the connections and avoid the heater bypass hose from the manifold to the water pump....one less hose to fail.

If you don't want to run a heater, then I can agree to plug the heater hose supply outlet on the water pump and the return inlet at the intake. Since my water pump didn't have a threaded opening, I installed a NAPA 3/4" rubber expansion plug (tightens up with the turn of a center nut on a stud) to plug off the non-threaded outlet.

I think you may be asking for potential trouble if you eliminate the bypass hose between the intake and the H20 pump if you're also using a thermostat. If no thermostat, then no problem.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 05-13-2004 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't need no steenkin' heater

Seriously guys, thanks for all the great responses

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Fastymz
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posted 05-13-2004 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
I don't need no steenkin' heater

Seriously guys, thanks for all the great responses


It snowed here on tuesday,that why I leave my heater hooked up. Other wise the whole unit would on the shelf, less weight.

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SCOOP

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matt d
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posted 05-13-2004 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matt d     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. Do not plug the small bypass hose from the thermostat housing to the pump....that would be bad. But, if you don't have a heater then the second bypass hose is redundant and is better off plugged IMO.

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