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Topic: 351C timing set ofr a Scat Crank
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orangemach1
Journeyman Posts: 46
From: Southgate, MI
Registered: May 2003
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posted 05-06-2004 10:31 PM
   
Guys,I am building my 393C stroker with a 3.85 Stroke Scat crank and found out the the snout is a Windsor snout that needs a spacer (not as big deal, of the shelf Ford Motorsport part) but it also has a .005 smaller dia snot for the timing gear. Has anyone encountered this?? Looking for an off the shelf part. Need to get this together this week. ------------------
Brian, 1970 Mach 1, 377C - Soon to be more!!, Shaker, 4-Speed
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1333
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-07-2004 07:11 AM
Someone on this list (7D Mach1?) had the snout knurled and used a standard Cleveland gear.
I also heard from a guy that SCAT sold him a timing set that used the Windsor lower gear.
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jim1320
Gearhead Posts: 223
From: white plains, maryland, usa
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 05-07-2004 08:43 AM
In reading about crankshaft its using a windsor lower gear jim1320------------------
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 872
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 05-07-2004 10:55 AM
One nice thing about the Fontan block is that it takes a 351W timing set so the SCAT crank with spacer should work for me... if SCAT ever gets the raw forgings in house. Dan Jones
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orangemach1
Journeyman Posts: 46
From: Southgate, MI
Registered: May 2003
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posted 05-07-2004 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by jim1320:
In reading about crankshaft its using a windsor lower gear jim1320
Where are you reading this?? I have not found anything that describes it. The 351W centerline distance is different and both gears are different # of teeth. Not sure this can be accomplished. ------------------
Brian, 1970 Mach 1, 377C - Soon to be more!!, Shaker, 4-Speed
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orangemach1
Journeyman Posts: 46
From: Southgate, MI
Registered: May 2003
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posted 05-07-2004 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Mpcoluv:
Someone on this list (7D Mach1?) had the snout knurled and used a standard Cleveland gear.
I also heard from a guy that SCAT sold him a timing set that used the Windsor lower gear.
SCAT did not tell me what to do about this, they directed me to call Motorsport and see if they have a timing kit to go with the spacer. They did not. The problem I see is the lower gear for both have a difference of 3 teeth (W-21/C-18). ------------------
Brian, 1970 Mach 1, 377C - Soon to be more!!, Shaker, 4-Speed
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dodgestang
Gearhead Posts: 146
From: Cecil County, MD, USA
Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 05-07-2004 03:03 PM
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orangemach1
Journeyman Posts: 46
From: Southgate, MI
Registered: May 2003
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posted 05-07-2004 03:24 PM
Dodestang,Seems like there was no resolution tot he links there. The same things have been thrown out that I was already thinking. ------------------
Brian, 1970 Mach 1, 377C - Soon to be more!!, Shaker, 4-Speed
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dodgestang
Gearhead Posts: 146
From: Cecil County, MD, USA
Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 05-07-2004 04:26 PM
Sorry thought it may have helped.I have a scat crank in my stroker (408) and just used the ford motorsport standard crank spacer and a cloyes double roller...I didn't run into any fitment problems on the snout.....but I also built the motor to be a sub 7k motor.
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sixtyeight
Journeyman Posts: 29
From: lineville iowa usa
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 05-08-2004 07:03 AM
The simple answer that I came up with was to wrap a strip of shim stock .0025 around the crank and tap the gear in place. A long feeler gage .0025 will work also. Its not a press fit by any means but its better than the alternative of having the gear moveing around.
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orangemach1
Journeyman Posts: 46
From: Southgate, MI
Registered: May 2003
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posted 05-08-2004 09:52 AM
The only answers I found are to knurl the crank snout, hard-chrome the timing gear (or crank snout) or find someone to custom make a timing gear set.My fist preference is a correct timing gear set, but cloyes won't do it. Not sure how robust the hard-chroming is, how long will it hold up? A racing shop by my house (Livernois Motorsports) Recommended the knurling of the crank end (Cost $30). ------------------
Brian, 1970 Mach 1, 377C - Soon to be more!!, Shaker, 4-Speed
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