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Topic: B&A Intakes
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'69PonyRider
Gearhead Posts: 238
From: Hawthorne, CA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 04-26-2004 01:39 PM
   
The B&A intakes were only made for the 351W for use with the 2V heads right? what would a 302W with a 9.5" deck height be? i thought 302's had an 8.5" deck height. someone is advertising a B&A street boss intake for a 302W 9.5"deck, did they make these intakes for the 302 as well? anyone have the phone number for bush performance?thanks
Aldo
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KULTULZ
Gearhead Posts: 834
From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 04-26-2004 02:24 PM
B&A manufactured intakes for both engines (deck heights).-STREET BOSS 302- New source of CLEVOR INTAKES; -PRICE MOTORSPORT ENGINEERING- [This message has been edited by KULTULZ (edited 04-26-2004).]
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 873
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 04-26-2004 04:51 PM
302's are 8.2" deck
351C's are 9.2" deck
351W's are 9.5" deck
FRPP makes a 8.7" tall deck 302 block which requires a custom intake.
B&A made intakes for both 302 and 351W blocks. Most were for 2V heads.Dan Jones
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1333
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-26-2004 06:37 PM
With all of the good Windsor heads and intakes out there, why would you build a Clevor?
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 04-26-2004 07:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mpcoluv:
With all of the good Windsor heads and intakes out there, why would you build a Clevor?
Likes to spend more money to go slower? 
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'69PonyRider
Gearhead Posts: 238
From: Hawthorne, CA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 04-26-2004 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by kid vishus:
Likes to spend more money to go slower?
OUCH!  Im not building one, just so you know  Someone i know has been itching to try this out, just gathering info. lol BTW Kid....a lot of people say that about clevelands as well  I wont say anything cuz Im almost done with my cleveland.
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 04-26-2004 08:01 PM
double post  [This message has been edited by kid vishus (edited 04-27-2004).]
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 04-26-2004 08:04 PM
Well, before there were so many afterket windsor heads available, the hot ticket was to bolt 2v C heads on a windsor. But now with all the good aftermarket W heads available, it's downright "dumb" to build a clevor. IMO.
But the facts are this, 2v C heads dont flow worth a darn in stock form, and even ported they don't flow very well. But compared to factory W heads, they are amazing. Toss in the aftermarket heads, and then they show their age and can't compare. And the only folks that say that about a 4v cleveland are truely ignorant. 4v C heads still outflow about 90% of the aftermarket W heads out there. The real problem with a cleveland is it will make more power than the block can handle, and do it with factory parts.
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'69PonyRider
Gearhead Posts: 238
From: Hawthorne, CA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 04-26-2004 08:06 PM
I agree Kid, I just wish someone made an AFFORDABLE set of aluminumn heads for the cleveland. Poor windsor folk wont know what hit them 
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-26-2004 11:13 PM
B&A also made a piss poor 8.2 windsor "race" intake.
After two tries and some of the worst customer service imaginable (I can see first hand why they went out of business)I got the right intake I ordered.
It was all for nothing as it made less power than my modified Offy Port-o-toilet (sonic).
It's on a friends bracket/show car now.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 805
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-27-2004 07:08 AM
A guy I ran against in NMCA Factory Street ran the B&A 351 intake with his 4V heads, so there must be enough mat'l there to open them up to the 4V port. BTW that car was running high 9's at 3100lbs NA, flat tappet cam, 408 inches with a drag radial tire!! ------------------
'68 mustang 351 clevor- 10.92@124
'67 Stang, 351W -11.18@118
'69 351C Torino-14.90@100
'78 Pickup 351W-15.56@88
'79 Pickup 460 ET=??
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TT670
Journeyman Posts: 16
From: NY, USA
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 04-29-2004 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by '69PonyRider:
I agree Kid, I just wish someone made an AFFORDABLE set of aluminumn heads for the cleveland. Poor windsor folk wont know what hit them
Edelbrock will be releasing aluminum cleveland heads very soon.. Id imagine pricing will be similar to the rest of the edelbrock lineup.
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1553
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
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posted 04-30-2004 09:20 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TT670:
Edelbrock will be releasing aluminum cleveland heads very soon.. Id imagine pricing will be similar to the rest of the edelbrock lineup.
Good news.... it's only taken them 34 years. If the cleveland was a cheby engine they would have been released years ago.
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1724
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 04-30-2004 12:34 PM
I've got a 351C motor collecting dust in the shop with only 60K miles on it and I'm still waiting for those light alum heads and matching intake to come around. Dan
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 04-30-2004 03:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TT670:
Edelbrock will be releasing aluminum cleveland heads very soon..
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 805
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-30-2004 05:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mpcoluv:
With all of the good Windsor heads and intakes out there, why would you build a Clevor?
Those 34 year old heads, when properly done, will still outflow and out horsepower 90% of the aftermarket heads out there
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1333
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-30-2004 05:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rustang:
Those 34 year old heads, when properly done, will still outflow and out horsepower 90% of the aftermarket heads out there
I agree that the 4V heads will flow a ton of air. I agree that a Clevor can make good power.
Let me re-phrase my statement.
If you don't already have good 4V heads and the B&A intake or adaptors from price motorsports, why build a clevor?
If you start out with a set of factory stock 30 year old heads, buy new quality valves, valvesprings, etc, have studs and guideplate installed, valvejob, etc.. you have almost spent as much money as a set of afermarket Windsor heads cost.
I still say that if you are starting from scratch, a Clevor is not the greatest idea.
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Jim Sams
'69 mustang Coupe
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 04-30-2004 05:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rustang:
Those 34 year old heads, when properly done, will still outflow and out horsepower 90% of the aftermarket heads out there
That is the nice thing about a cleveland. It doesn't need aftermarket heads to make more power than the block can handle. Aluminum heads are "nice", but definately not needed with a cleveland. Personally, unless I was buying a set of old motorsports C302 heads or Brodix Neal heads, I wouldn't waste my money on aluminum for a cleveland. And if I were doing that, I sure wouldn't be bolting them on a stock block.
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jim1320
Gearhead Posts: 224
From: white plains, maryland, usa
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 04-30-2004 07:16 PM
I have friend of my that got the intake for a 302 windsor motor b&a for 2v heads i think will sell and nice set austraia heads all new valves in they and spring jim1320 e mail [email protected]------------------
1970 Mach 1 393 stroker cleveland best 10.88 @123.50 3550 lb car with exhaust have fun!!!
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