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Topic: I found some one to help with rear gears
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-08-2004 01:26 AM
   
This company just moved to Reno.  http://justrearends.com/ The onwers name is Tim. His shop in about two doors over from Bill Williams. Both Tony Hewes and Bill said they have heard of the guy and used him. They said he does good work. I went over and met the guy he said it would be about $500 or less. To rebuild my 3rd member and trak lok and add 3.80 gears. That seems like an ok price. He could also build me a new unit with a Detroit locker and 3.80 or 4.11 gears for about $720. So is the Detriot looker a bettet then what I have now ?
Can some explain why you'd go with one over the other ? BTW Bill is getting me a late model starter gear reduction starter all rebuilt. For less then the power master unit. Alex thanks for the leads it's all about who you know. Lucky for me I know you guys.  ------------------
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grandestang
Gearhead Posts: 300
From: Lake Bluff, Illinois USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 04-08-2004 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
This company just moved to Reno. http://justrearends.com/ The onwers name is Tim. His shop in about two doors over from Bill Williams. Both Tony Hewes and Bill said they have heard of the guy and used him. They said he does good work. I went over and met the guy he said it would be about $500 or less. To rebuild my 3rd member and trak lok and add 3.80 gears. That seems like an ok price. He could also build me a new unit with a Detroit locker and 3.80 or 4.11 gears for about $720. So is the Detriot looker a bettet then what I have now ?
Can some explain why you'd go with one over the other ? BTW Bill is getting me a late model starter gear reduction starter all rebuilt. For less then the power master unit. Alex thanks for the leads it's all about who you know. Lucky for me I know you guys.
I'm sure others will agree with me when I say this, but for straight line performance you can't really beat a locker. The axles are mechanically locked together and when you make a turn they disengage. I have never driven in a detroit locker car, but I have rode in one, and it can get a little clunky around the turns when it disengages. But you will never have to worry about the clutches wearing out or one wheel slipping more than the other in a straight line. Scoop since I don't think you plan on doing alot of hard turning in this car (you removed the front sway bar right?) why not just go with the locker? Yeah its more expensive but I think it might be better for what your doing with your car. Just my .02 Paul
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71Mach1
Gearhead Posts: 177
From: new jersey
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 04-08-2004 10:48 AM
I switched from the traction lok to the detroit
locker, took a little getting used to, but
you can't beat it for striaght line performance.
Sometimes I hear a clunk when turning, but
usually not. On a sharp turn sometimes one
wheel will slip a little and you will hear
a little tire spin, you have to get used to
the idea that the one wheel won't break loose
and spin independent of the other. I also
notice that if you are in a gradual turn
and you give it gas you can feel the back end
trying to go straight. Just takes getting used to. When I picked up
my car with a TKO, detroit locker and 4.30
gears I was thinking I'd made a mistake
going with that combo, but now it's second
nature driving it. I would't want to drive
it every day in stop and go traffic though.
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Scott (69Mach)
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From: Walnut Creek, CA USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 04-08-2004 11:04 AM
Lockers are great, but they are hell in the rain...
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-08-2004 11:21 AM
Thanks guys, no road racing for my car. But it is driven mostly on the street. I try not to drive it in the rain unless I can't avoid it. I do not speed around turns now. It sounds like it's the best for the racing and the worst for street driving ? but it has to better then a spool right ?Is it a stronger unit the what I have now ? Paul your right no sway bar,90-10 front shocks, so to have adjustable rears shocks. The car is a just for pleasure, I'd like to be able to take a ling trip in it too. But don't mind dealling with alittle noise and rougher ride. As a trade for better traction when needed. ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 04-08-2004 11:22 AM
Sorry one more thing is one unit going to harder on the rear end then the other. More likely to break something with one unit and not the other ?------------------
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Kyle
Gearhead Posts: 334
From: Sumner, WA
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 04-08-2004 01:08 PM
I don't know about the lockers, but I wanted to ask you about your front shock selection. I see you are going with 90/10s. Just thought I would throw in I read somewhere that 90/10s are bad for street driving. They tent to "jack up" if you are driving over rough roads, and can't react like a std. shock in sudden stops or lane changes.Of course, maybe you already had the 90/10s on your car, and if so, disregard all this. But, if not, what about a pair of these 3-way adjustable shocks, like from CE or Summit? 60/40, 80/20, or 90/10. Just a thought! Are you running traction bars, or are you going to pop for the Cal-Tracs? ------------------
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 04-08-2004 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by Kyle:
I don't know about the lockers, but I wanted to ask you about your front shock selection. I see you are going with 90/10s. Just thought I would throw in I read somewhere that 90/10s are bad for street driving. They tent to "jack up" if you are driving over rough roads, and can't react like a std. shock in sudden stops or lane changes.Of course, maybe you already had the 90/10s on your car, and if so, disregard all this. But, if not, what about a pair of these 3-way adjustable shocks, like from CE or Summit? 60/40, 80/20, or 90/10. Just a thought! Are you running traction bars, or are you going to pop for the Cal-Tracs?
Kyle I went with the summit adjustable fronts last year. The car does react alittle different then without the 90/10. It's not real to adjust them and it drives fine to me so I just leave them on 90-10 all the time. 
I have lift bars right now I'll stick with those for now. I have not had anyproblems with sudden stops but the front does lift if driving freeway speeds over a bumpy road. Nothing I can't live with.
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Fastymz
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posted 04-08-2004 02:27 PM
I talked with Tim Crowe again today he owns TC enterprises www.justrearends.com Nice guy and a Ford guy too. I can't wait to save up the money for new gears now. I also picked up a brand new starter from Bill Williams today another great guy fun to talk with. The price was good too, it's a newer ford unit gear reduction mini size. ------------------
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Tom G
Gearhead Posts: 380
From: Bethlehem, Pa USA
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 04-08-2004 03:19 PM
Gear swap 3.25 to 3.89 with all new bearing and rebuild kit for 9" ran me $380 I helped him swap the punkin. good choice for street gears Ron Save the bucks!  ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 04-08-2004 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Tom G:
Gear swap 3.25 to 3.89 with all new bearing and rebuild kit for 9" ran me $380 I helped him swap the punkin. good choice for street gears Ron Sae the bucks!
Thanks Tom
The price includes all new bearings seals and rebuilding the trac lok unit too. Are you saying to save my money and not do the gears ?
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Dubz
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From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 04-08-2004 04:24 PM
an open dif as well as a trac lock would be "easier" on axles than a lockerwith a locker if one wheel is in the air then the other is on a good traction surface the one with good traction will receive all the torque of the motor....where as with a ls or open some of that torque will be lost to the one without traction?
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Fastymz
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posted 04-09-2004 01:36 PM
Dubz I would think the pinion would go before the axles would break ?It just seems like the Detroit locker would put more stress on all the parts and be more prone to find the weak link then the traclok ? From what I've read the locker would be the best as long as I drive careful on the street. One last thing is this all a waste and should I just start looking for a 9" and put the money into that instead ?
And just run what I have for now ? ------------------
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rockafellz
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From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 04-09-2004 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
One last thing is this all a waste and should I just start looking for a 9" and put the money into that instead ?
And just run what I have for now ?
Ron, Hmm...All this time I thought we had been talking 9" detroit lockers. I didn't know tractech made 8" detroit lockers. I've got a 9" detroit locker with a WAR case but the 3.80 gears are pitted so I think I also need new gears. But I also need the proper housing. Erik ------------------
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Kyle
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From: Sumner, WA
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 04-09-2004 03:47 PM
Ron, I try to think of the 8" vs 9" use (and lots of other stuff too)like this:"Pay me now or pay me later." I have an 8" in the Fairlane, with 4.11 gears, a spool, and Strange 31-spline axles. I have been told (on here and elsewhere) that since i'm running an automatic, and no trans-brake, the 8" should hold up fine. I know someday I will be upgrading to a 9", so I choose the "Pay me later" route- less expensive now, so I can build a better motor. Either way, sometime it will probably have to be done. I would say stay 8" for now.
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Fastymz
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posted 04-09-2004 04:17 PM
Kyle thats kinda my thinking right now too. And I feel as long as I don't total the eight inch it will always be worth something when if I sell it.Money does not come easy,and most people have told me NO slicks with an auto I'll be fine.Eric yeah they have a DL for 8" go to the weblink I posted. Not sure who makes it ?
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steve'66
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posted 04-09-2004 06:37 PM
Ron,What's the matter, was I charging too much? LOL  SteveW
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Fastymz
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posted 04-09-2004 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by steve'66:
Ron,What's the matter, was I charging too much? LOL SteveW
No nothing like that at all, and I still might work a deal with you.But I just thought it would be more easy for both if I had someone here in town. ------------------
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steve'66
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posted 04-09-2004 11:05 PM
Ron,It's OK I have plenty of projects Just couldn't resist poking you in the ribs. SteveW
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Fastymz
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posted 04-10-2004 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by steve'66:
Ron,It's OK I have plenty of projects Just couldn't resist poking you in the ribs. SteveW
So now your telling me you don't have time. ------------------
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steve'66
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posted 04-10-2004 08:00 PM
Ron,Time is a constantly changing thing, depending on priorities. You know, like do I want to mow the lawn and clean the gutters or rebuild a third member for a friend? SteveW
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ccode67
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From: douglasville,ga,usa
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-12-2004 07:09 AM
Hey Scoop, just my 2 cents here, so take it for what it's worth. If you spend that much on the 8 inch, why not find a housing and a 28 spline 9 inch, you can reuse your existing axles. Even if you went with a new housing from Currie ($300) it would only cost a few $ more. Too bad it's not a 67 or 68, I have a good housing I'd make you a deal on. I'm sure you can find a housing used some where. ------------------
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ProStangs
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From: Frederick, MD, USA
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 04-12-2004 11:07 AM
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 04-16-2004 07:19 PM
Stuart thats one reason I have not jumped to anything yet. I'm hoping I'll come across a good deal on a 9" first.Steve I know all about priorities. I have three rooms in my house that need paint. I never seem to find the time to paint them,but I did find the time to paint my engine bay. ------------------
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