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Topic: What brand ignition???
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Stang72
Gearhead Posts: 283
From: Arkel,Zuid-Holland,Holland
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 04-05-2004 01:01 PM
   
im thinking off taking my ignition to the next level, i'm currenlty using a Mallory Unilite 47 series with the electronic Mallory coil no:29216. i was thinking of a ignition box, either from MSD (MSD6A??) or to stay with Mallory and go with a Hyfire (III,IV,CD/IS??) and then top it off with a promaster coil??? i'm a little lost in the woods of ignition land and not knowing what to deciede on...maybe some of you have experience with a brand or type of box... the car sees street-action and maybe some strip..306, Windsorjr heads, 9.5 to 1 comp, 600cfm Holley,weiand stealth, 2800rpm stall conv, 3.55 reargears greetz Ben
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7249
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-05-2004 02:05 PM
if i were going with the msd (which i would) i would get the 6al because it has a place for rev limiter chips. (comes with a supply) i also have had good luck with the hifire IV. it has little switches so that you can preset the low and high rpm. however, i dont really think that you will notice significent power gains with either over what you got now. to me a spark is a spark is a spark. if it is lighting the fire, then it is working ok. just my opinion, i could be wrong. good luck  ------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.33 @92mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/billswebsite/pg06.html
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Stang72
Gearhead Posts: 283
From: Arkel,Zuid-Holland,Holland
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 04-06-2004 11:49 AM
Well, im asking this coz, a friend of mine with a 466 bbf has good result with a MSD Distributor and MSD6A box with the standard coil...i was looking into upgrading my ingnition setup as well. I think there might be a couple of hp to be won. If i install a ign-box (MSD/Mall.) and another coil, i can upgrade the complete system up to 12V instead of the 9V it's running on now, and with more V ,means more spark, so i can raise the gap of the plugs?? meaning a greater/powerful spark?? i think i'm close to the truth but as said before, im lost in Ingitionland, so if anyone knows???  greetz Ben
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Stang72
Gearhead Posts: 283
From: Arkel,Zuid-Holland,Holland
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 04-08-2004 12:33 PM
No other opinions????
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JAAZZY
Gearhead Posts: 801
From: Bay Area, CA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-08-2004 05:55 PM
I have the original Hyfire box and have never had a problem with it. I can't remember exactly when I bought it but I think it was in the early 90s so about 10 years ago. I have the Mallory Comp 9000 distributor. I'll be selling the distributor soon because I bought another Mallory unit that is compatible with my new fuel injection system. It will probably be a couple of months before I get it all put together.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-08-2004 06:01 PM
Nobody beats MSD's support and service.
NOBODY!No brag, just fact.  ------------------
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 20708
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-08-2004 06:29 PM
What about DUI ------------------
SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 44935
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-08-2004 06:36 PM
Scoop <--- official wiseass of M&MMSD all the way, baby! Ford Duraspark if you are on a tight budget.  If you go DUI, buy two so you can keep one in the trunk as a spare. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 20708
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-08-2004 06:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Scoop <--- official wiseass of M&M
Thats a title I'll work hard to live up to.
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SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 44935
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-08-2004 06:49 PM
I don't think you even have to work at it. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open
'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 20708
From: Reno Nv USA M&M#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-08-2004 06:56 PM
I'm not sure thats a good thing. ------------------
SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 1652
From: Sierra Vista ,Az USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 04-10-2004 02:15 AM
Damm and I was working towards Honorary member.
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2904
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-10-2004 02:37 AM
DO NOT USE A Mallory UNILTE!  Mine went out on me tonight on the last pass. The LED module. They are 75 bucks for a replacement. why do I run it instead of my MSD sitting on the shelf. It won't clear the tunnel ram. If you have room DONT RUN A UNILITE!
I've had a few buddies burn up the LED module on unilite before also. Now I have to find one BEFORE Wednesday when we leave for Nashville. Run all MSD if you can, I would if MSD made a small base Dizzy for a 460
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JS
Run what you brung and hope you brung enough!
69 Mustang Pro ET Drag
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Stang72
Gearhead Posts: 283
From: Arkel,Zuid-Holland,Holland
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 04-10-2004 07:39 AM
That's not good news!!!! i have my Unilite for 3 years now and no foul ups so far... but if it goes the next thing will be a MSD ,from what i heard is that the unilite doesn't cope well with voltagepeaks.... maybe thats it what caused it blowing up????
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 04-10-2004 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by jsracingbbf:
... I would if MSD made a small base Dizzy for a 460
They do make a small cap dizzy for them, but it's a pro billet. Will it fit? You could lock it out and use with your crank trigger. It's part number 8577 in MSD's book.
I've seen too many of Mallory unilites fail for me to EVER buy one for anything. Just like any HEI based dizzy, they have no place on a racecar IMHO.
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2904
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-10-2004 10:22 AM
I've talked to three different Techs at MSD they don't have anything that will fit. the mallory barely fits.
I wish. The only other thing is an offset dist. big bucks.
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 04-10-2004 10:38 AM
Why wont the small cap MSD fit? I know I've seen other guys with tunnelrams using it. But maybe they had a different style than yours. What intake do you have? If you would like, I'll ask Animal if he has any ideas of what would work.
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2904
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-10-2004 10:48 AM
I'm open to anything. I researched this issue with MSD techs and even Mallory, hoping they made a magnetic drop in conversion for the unilite. I got nowhere. The MSD tech finally gave me the number of a guy who made offset distributors for them. If I grind on the tunnel ram I might get the small cap MSD to fit, maybe.
The guys on the 385 forum have gone through this too. There is a long thred over there that is probably 4-5 months old on clearing the tunnel ram.
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 04-10-2004 10:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jsracingbbf:
If I grind on the tunnel ram I might get the small cap MSD to fit, maybe.
The guys on the 385 forum have gone through this too. There is a long thred over there that is probably 4-5 months old on clearing the tunnel ram.
That doesn't too promising.  I'll check with him anyways. Maybe you need to break out the TIG and make your own sheetmetal intake.
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2904
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-10-2004 10:59 AM
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=85220&messageid=1076118118
I can't tig, I can barely weld.
I need a unilite module for short term, really fast or stay home.
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