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Topic: Starter Wiring Question??
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CometGT1974
Gearhead Posts: 372
From: Asheville, NC USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 03-30-2004 03:00 PM
   
I recently installed a FRPP mini starter on the Comet. I noticed that when I start the car that the starter keeps spinning about 4-5 seconds after I release the ignition switch, then it stops. Doesn't seem to be messing anything up but it just an annoyance, how can I fix it??
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-30-2004 03:42 PM
I wired the power from the original solenoid to both the starter and the starter's solenoid. Just a little jumper from the starter's cable post to the starter's built in solenoid. Don't know if it's the best way but it works well for me.  SteveW
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-30-2004 04:06 PM
I got this off the power master site."Why does my starter seem to ?run on? after the switch is released?
This is a common complaint on Ford permanent magnet starters, although it can occur on any permanent magnet starter in the right conditions. This situation develops when the ignition terminal on the starter is ?jumpered? to the battery terminal on the starter and a remote solenoid is used. Permanent magnet starters can actually produce power if they are driven from an outside source (i.e. the starter will act like an alternator once the engine fires and starts spinning). The current produced in the starter for this second or so will flow from the starter?s battery terminal to the starter?s ignition terminal and hold the solenoid in. This will cause the one to two second delay in the solenoid release and an irritating noise. The solution is to wire the starter per the instruction sheet, which will ensure that the ignition switch terminal goes dead the instance the key is released."
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-30-2004 04:11 PM
yup i had the same problem. just eliminated the selinoid on the fenderwell and used the one built into the starter.------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.33 @92mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/billswebsite/pg06.html
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CometGT1974
Gearhead Posts: 372
From: Asheville, NC USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 03-30-2004 05:12 PM
Thanks for the help guys, sounds like i've got some wiring changes ahead of me!! Steve, I have mine wired just like yours.....it doesn't seem to be hurting the starger gear or the flywheel so I guess it's just a nuisance!!
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-30-2004 05:21 PM
Good info guys.  I'll leave mine alone for now since it works fine. SteveW
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-30-2004 08:00 PM
i guess it wont hurt anything unless you rev up the motor before the starter disengages!! that would spin the starter real fast!! ------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.33 @92mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/billswebsite/pg06.html
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-01-2004 12:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
I wired the power from the original solenoid to both the starter and the starter's solenoid. Just a little jumper from the starter's cable post to the starter's built in solenoid. Don't know if it's the best way but it works well for me. SteveW
I talked to two different Ford racers today that run that same starter as you guys have and they both said to wire it the way Steve has it with the little jumper wire. And they both said to stay away from the power master starters. ------------------
SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 813
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 04-01-2004 01:24 PM
Do you have the Ford Motorsport wiring diagram? If you hook it up per the wiring diagram, it won't spin the way yours does. I didn't have the diagram at first and tried a couple of different ways of wiring it up. One way behaved like you say, the other energized the solenoid all the time and will fry it in short order. Dan Jones
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