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jsracingbbf
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posted 03-17-2004 12:53 AM              Reply w/Quote
a canadian guy that was picked by HOT ROD for the "TRUE" Street car shoot out in Memphis on May 1st CLAIMS he has a buddy that goes 9 flats, in a 3500 lb car. no power adders, DOT street tires, 11.1 pump gas. 588 cubic inches. so tell me do we believe this ??? I don't. And I told him I'd like to see it first. 9.50's I'd say ok maybe so but high 8's?? comon.

he did say that time was corrected for sea level. maybe his track posts their elevation = to that of the moon when it is really closer to earth? I dunno.

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Run what you brung and hope you brung enough!
69 Mustang Pro ET Drag

Big D
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Posts: 6843
From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 03-17-2004 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D        Reply w/Quote

Hey Jerry.. I got you a present today.. You'll love it..

Hey,, I had to drive 60 mile to a PILOT truck stop to find it.. and,, It's you buddy..

Don

Dubz
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Posts: 2005
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002

posted 03-17-2004 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz        Reply w/Quote
oh yah, i know bob, the guy he's talking about, he works in an office. nice car, a big step up from the dogsled, who'da thought, running water, electricity, AND cars all in the same year

Dubz
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Posts: 2005
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002

posted 03-17-2004 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz        Reply w/Quote
what would that take, about 900 horses? probably more since i doubt the launch would be good with numbers like that and dot tires....

900+ hp out of a 588cid 11.1, i think it probably could be possible, that's alot of displacement, only 1.5hp/cid (going by the ricer scale)

*shrug* either way i'd love to find out more

wildfire466
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posted 03-17-2004 03:01 AM              Reply w/Quote
Have some fun and watch a BBF at work!!!

http://members.tripod.com/tomak3/page4.html

Check out the video's. It's a small link at the bottom!
Car is N/A

Les

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[This message has been edited by wildfire466 (edited 03-17-2004).]

wildfire466
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posted 03-17-2004 03:12 AM              Reply w/Quote
Add BBF Info

With an under 6,000 RPM 514, well worked standard port D0VE-C early castings will work just fine. The factory BBF passenger car iron worked quite well in their intended applications but for RPM they need work. The BBF exhaust port bites as cast and needs help !!!

Ported D0VE-C's with 2.19" / 1.76" S/S valves, stage 2 ported with flow of about 350 / 210 @ .800" and 325 / 200 cfm @ .600"

Comp solid roller either an XR286R or XR292R. The first will peak at about 5,500 and the latter at about 5,800.
use good roller rockers. Install cam straight up or 1 degree advanced.

Stealth intake or even a victor as the extra inches and the victor work well together. 850 or 950 holley HP will work well

Keep C/R with iron heads and the above cams at 10 to 10.5 to 1 and she will live on pump premium and 38 degrees total timing. 12 to 14 initial and 24 to 26 centrifugal.

1 7/8" primary size headers and 3" exhaust.

With good heads this combo will make better than 600 pound feet of torque and about 600+ HP at peak.

It is critical that a stroker have good breathing heads and exhaust or you are wasting your time and money.

The BBF and the BBC are quite a bit alike really and are built similarly. The ford requires more attention to the exhaust and less to the intake side but they are very comparable engines. I like the BBF for a variety of reasons but the best thing is the ease of making alot of inches with a stock block. Up to 557 to 572 before an aftermarket block is needed. The stroker kits are not expensive at all either!!!

Les

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jsracingbbf
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posted 03-17-2004 10:52 AM              Reply w/Quote
Ok to all of that BUT 9 flat on DOT radials??? No nitrous, 160 + MPH on DOT's

is this believable? I dont care what brand the motor is.

I dont care where the guy is from that's not the point, what I'm questioning is the time slip. I'd have to see the pass in person to belive it. Maybe these DOT's are slicks with grooves in them I don't know. The car also weighs 3500lbs, that's alot of weight to be on DOT's at over 160.

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JS
Run what you brung and hope you brung enough!
69 Mustang Pro ET Drag

wildfire466
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posted 03-17-2004 12:37 PM              Reply w/Quote
Re: jsracingbbf

Ya that's a bunch of weight. My car was 3420 on Goodrich (3:50 gear 275-60-15) with 10 psi and I could smoke the tries pretty easy. I think most of that is driver error though. I guess he could have traction control?

Les

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Rustang
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Posts: 880
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 03-17-2004 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rustang        Reply w/Quote
I raced a couple of events in NMCA Factory Street which required a 275/60 drag radial. The class record holder (Dave Rudisell) was running a 408 Windsor with Boss 302 heads, NA, and a flat tappet cam. At 3200lbs he ran 9.65.

He still runs in a nitrous drag street radial class, and with bigger radials and same basic engine combination runs in the 8.50's.

I guess what I'm saying is the tires will definitely go that quick, and given what that Clevor ran with 180 less cubes, it's possible.

Here's another angle...
In Popular Hot Rodding's Engine Masters competition, Jon Kaase built a 470 cubic inch BBF that put out 745hp on 92 octane! So an extra 118 cubes at 1.58hp/cubic inch and that 588 could possibly be putting out 929hp on 92 octane. Running thru one of those on-line calculators that would be about a 9.23. But remember, my figures are based on a BBF that won a nation-wide competition, so it's probably unlikely it went 9flat at 3500lbs.

I think he's exagerating the weight or ET. This is a Chebby guy you're talking to, right?

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'68 mustang 351 clevor- 10.92@124
'67 Stang, 351W -11.18@118
'69 351C Torino-14.90@100
'78 Pickup 351W-15.56@88
'79 Pickup 460 ET=??

wildfire466
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posted 03-17-2004 01:52 PM              Reply w/Quote
Re: Rustang

Ya have agree with you as I seen posts of people going quick on the tires. Most of the cars were small blocks that I noticed. I guess the weight maybe easier to transfer? I'm really not sure just an opinion. I purchaced the Goodrich cuz it was in my price range. I was going to get MT's but they say it needed a inner tube. I got to the track and found that the tube was not nessary. Oh, well it tuff being a newbe somedaze.

Les

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69_sportsroof
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Posts: 223
From: Camino Calif (yeah, it does snow here)
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 03-18-2004 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69_sportsroof        Reply w/Quote
9 flat...whats the big deal.That ain't tough in EIGHTH mile........Jay

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